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Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by cmrdporcupine » Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 8:01 PM UTC

nicbou wrote: post #181

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #64

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The AI has some ... "ideas" ... of its own on what workplace relationships apparently need to be like.

And those ideas seem far more in line with millenial Silicon Valley culture. It's weird when they expect Germans to fake that sort of overly formal, overly cheery tone. People just don't talk like that.

Yeah, my father is German, and I'm Canadian, but of a .. grouchy ... variety. This kind of business culture has never really fit with me. But it's how the people with the $$ speak.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by cmrdporcupine » Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 8:04 PM UTC

AyyEye wrote: post #82

mavhc wrote: post #47

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The old human: 1. Born into plague 2. Never learns maths or writing 3. Nor spelling 4. Half the time your life ends before childhood does 5. Nothing happens in your life

I can't believe that people unironically believe that humans lived unfulfilling lives until mass consumerism started. Incredible. Just because we don't know what daily life looked like doesn't mean "nothing happened".

Nevermind that "nothing happening" sounds positively amazing, especially if my surroundings were a bucolic river side European village.

Farm work done? Picked all my parasites out of my hair and clothes? Now to settle down for the very-zen "sit by the fire, sing some peasant songs and do nothing" -- sounds amazing

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by spencerflem » Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 9:42 PM UTC

account42 wrote: post #266

spencerflem wrote: post #234

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An empowered customer service team could do this by refusing service. Its an offense to justice that its so easy to get away with being mean to service workers.

The alternative is being mean to more expensively paid workers. That's what the suppart staff is ultimately paid for.

Never going to argue against better pay, but-

I see it as like- if you were the owner of a company, you could decide for yourself what the $/abuse trade off is, and for each individual customer decide if it's worth it.

As a disempowered employee, you can only decide in aggregate if the total $ vs total abuse is worth it. So in order to keep getting paid at all, you Must put up with every interaction. Which leads to no alternative to the person being abused and no real consequences for the person being abusive, which is a shame. And it seems a lot easier to take abuse if you know you have the upper hand and have an out if you ever want it.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by FrustratedMonky » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 11:48 AM UTC

dml2135 wrote: post #264

immibis wrote: post #251

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Yes.

got a source for that?

Yes. The green house gas effect has been studied since 1856.

The 'right' is willfully ignorant. Not just ignorant because they just haven't been exposed. They willfully decide to be ignorant because knowledge goes against their religion.

"The year was 1856. Foote’s brief scientific paper was the first to describe the extraordinary power of carbon dioxide gas to absorb heat – the driving force of global warming."

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2021/07/scientists-physics-c...

https://history.aip.org/climate/co2.htm

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by FrustratedMonky » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 11:58 AM UTC

danparsonson wrote: post #263

MrMcCall wrote: post #172

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They weren't using modern GPUs and muiltiprocessor machines to cook the Earth, which has been happening on a large scale since the turn of this century. That's what I was and still am saying.

No, we were burning coal and cutting down trees. I'm not saying that what we're doing now is fine, if anything I'm agreeing with you but pointing out that profit-driven environmental destruction has been happening since way before the invention of cryptocurrency.

"profit-driven environmental destruction has been happening since way before the invention of cryptocurrency"

Yes. People forget that every tree on the east coast was cut down. Every forest you see today on the east coast was re-grown, new. It was all clear cut for progress during expansion. I think it was mostly for 'potash' by burning it.

Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by kjkjadksj » Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 5:12 PM UTC

rsynnott wrote: post #224

kjkjadksj wrote: post #194

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The customer base for computing has expanded probably 3 or 4 fold or more from those windows xp days in the US. Maybe for the subset of the population that was word processing back then it was annoying. But now we are looking at a different pie entirely where that subset of annoyed power users is but a tiny sliver. There are people today who have no experience even with a desktop os.

This wasn’t the dark ages; in highly developed countries the ‘computer in every desk’ thing had just about come true. I doubt there are that many more regular word processor users now than in the late clippy era, at least in the developed world.

In 2000, 43% of the population of the US has accessed the internet. Today its 97%.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/209117/us-internet-penet...