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We knew about climate change in the 1880s. There, fixed it for you.
We knew about global warming in the 1880s?
Yes.
I do not want AI to "polish" me
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Yes, I'm pushing back on that because in the past it explicitly legal and normal to abuse women. Women were not allowed to be selective in the first place. So the community explicitly did not perform the protection you are saying. It was only recently illegal to rape your wife.
What I'm trying to say is that the people around us have always shaped who we pair up with - for better or worse - I think losing that is going to have consequences for social cohesion. It's impossible to say who historically had it worse in general and I don't really believe such discussion is important except for historians. The only thing that dwelling on it will cause is resentment towards people who never perpet…
You pointed out a historical inaccuracy I wished to correct. You were the one that brought up the past and then incorrectly depicted it. You're reading a little too much on this.
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#253> It’s like my whole computer is a toddler screaming “LET ME DO IT!” every time I try to create something. Every autocorrect or auto suggestion ever has felt like this to me, but the volume has been turned up to 11. The otherwise drab Adobe Reader is covered with colorful sparkly buttons and popups suggesting I need not even read the document because it can give me “insights.” First, no you may not ready my proprieta…
Thing is, we've been here before in a much more limited way; people _hated_ it when Microsoft's demonic paperclip did this in Office. "It looks like you're writing a letter". _Hated_ it. It is unclear what the industry thinks has changed, that people will now welcome "It looks like you're [whatever]".
The goal with most of these AI features is not to solve a real problem users are having, it's to add a feature that uses AI. This will not change because it's not wrong of the individuals making the decision. The project manager gets to say he shipped a cutting-edge AI project. The developers all get to put experience working with very hireable technologies at a serious company on their resume. There will be no adverse impact to the bottom line, because the cost to develop the shitty AI feature is a drop in the bucket, and the cost to create a competing product that accomplishes the core thing users are using that product for but without feature bloat would be very high, and probably unsuccessful since "less feature bloat" has never been sufficient to break the static friction threshold for users to switch.
So it won't change, because there is no lesson to learn. No individual involved acted irrationally.
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Ever read The Freeze Frame Revolution? Though, its stenography is a bit more obvious given the "you've got to be able to read it". The kindle version of the book starts with https://imgur.com/uIBjwlQ This would give you the opportunity to have another ending to the book.
I love The Freeze Frame Revolution, and yeah I was planning on doing something similar. I figure I'll publish an app that OCRs the text and displays the hidden message, and make the book read differently based on whether you can or can't see the messages. Then readers can use the app for hiding their own messages to each other also.
(realizing this is veering off into tangents of tangents)...
An idea I discussed with someone tossing story ideas about was regarding the reliable / unreliable narrator for a mystery mixed in with being able to view (lock a display screen to a geographic location, got a knob to rewind / fast forward time (up to the present)) immutable past events who finds something amiss. Upon the "somethings not right..." the narrator reviews their own events of the previous day and finds that the events don't match their memory. Is the narrator reliable? Is the narrator that is questioning their own reliability the narrator or an external agent trying to cast doubt on the reliability of the actual narrator?
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I don't think dang can do anything about it, I'm sure HN gets scraped all the time. I routinely get spam from cryptocurrency startups to (obfuscated) email addresses I have posted on HN years ago on "Who Wants to be Hired" threads, and from my commit messages on github.
Github is definitely quite the source of spam. I ended up realizing that when I was tired of having two .gitconfigs with two email addresses (work/personal) and switched to just putting my @users.noreply.github.com in there. No more spam. (Plus I get to show off my 4 digit Github userid. I was the 2367th person to sign up! ;)
Neat. I was pretty late to the party and have a userid halfway into the 6 digits, but somehow I got extremely lucky and landed a two-character username (my initials).
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I love The Freeze Frame Revolution, and yeah I was planning on doing something similar. I figure I'll publish an app that OCRs the text and displays the hidden message, and make the book read differently based on whether you can or can't see the messages. Then readers can use the app for hiding their own messages to each other also.
(realizing this is veering off into tangents of tangents)... An idea I discussed with someone tossing story ideas about was regarding the reliable / unreliable narrator for a mystery mixed in with being able to view (lock a display screen to a geographic location, got a knob to rewind / fast forward time (up to the present)) immutable past events who finds something amiss. Upon the "somethings not right..." the narra…
That does sound interesting--to give the reader a bit more tooling to decide whether they're being lied to and by whom. You might enjoy The Quantum Thief, which isn't published in a such a unique way, but which has fun a story that would fit right in.
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Somehow I don’t have this problem with notepad.exe or vim or pandoc or imagemagic or textedit.app or resolve or blender. Maybe it isn’t the tech industry, and just consumer-facing apps.
Open source has been looking better and better lately because it's not in a mad rush to bolt "AI" features onto it (an LLM will do something) and then shove a huge amount of interface in your face to try to get you to use it. On some level it's enormously baffling that this was the thing they decided they needed to do...conversely Adobe Reader on my phone won't shutup about liquid mode either (which uploads to Adobe…
One of the rare times when the slow pace of open source innovation is actually a benefit, because all innovation that's occurring is making things worse.
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Thing is, we've been here before in a much more limited way; people _hated_ it when Microsoft's demonic paperclip did this in Office. "It looks like you're writing a letter". _Hated_ it. It is unclear what the industry thinks has changed, that people will now welcome "It looks like you're [whatever]".
The people. The people changed. This forum (HN) attracts certain population that wants to do things, to understand, to share relatively well based opinions and have a discussion. But look around, look at the new hires in the other departments. And by new I mean young, in their 20. A lot of them welcome this kind of things, they evaluate by popularity and likes. The marketing begin the AI bubble knows this, and so it…
My sister is ripping her hair out dealing with the interns at he job being extremely tech illiterate with anything thats not app-ified. Many don't know what files are, and are needing run through computer basics because everything they have used has anything technical abstracted away. The post-iPhone generation just wants there hand held and anything technical scares them. Microsoft Bob was just too ahead of the curve.
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#259Why is the author mad? The "polish" button does exactly what you would expect it to do if you understand "polish" as "make polite". If you want to keep your words true and "unpolished", maybe at the risk of sounding rude, then don't use that feature. It is actually one of the first things I used LLMs for, and I still am. Latest example, I received an email from an administration asking me to sign some document, but i…
> and I didn't want to sound rude I think it's interesting how this has changed. If you go back and look at politically correct corpo-speak from decades past, it was bland and impersonal but aimed to be direct, clear, and reasonably concise. These days, it's still impersonal but now couched in platitudes, apologies, and excessively polite language in an attempt to avoid possibly offending anyone in any conceivable fa…
From my experience with LLMs, it matches your description of "corpo-speak". I think it is the right balance of politeness. The result is usually rather simple, and when it is not, that's because it wants me to add extra information, which is often a good idea, not because of too much politeness.
It is not at all like you say in the end, way more boring and that's the point. But out of curiosity, I asked ChatGPT for some appropriate formula for a use case like yours and I got "Sounds good to me! I accept your suggestion—let's move forward with it." Of course, there is some formalism here, in day-to-day communication with people you know, I found it to become less formal over the years. "ok" is fine now when it wasn't before. I think because test-based instant messaging is now commonplace.
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#260I’d rather get the bland polished version than the “I’m so silly/sarcastic/eccentric” version. Although ideally there’d be an AI setting that makes it both polished and terse.