Antiqua et Nova: Note on the relationship between AI and human intelligence

Post by throw0101c » Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 4:05 PM UTC

kouru225 wrote: post #44

b3lvedere wrote: post #6

" However, while AI holds many possibilities for promoting the good, it can also hinder or even counter human development and the common good. Pope Francis has noted that “evidence to date suggests that digital technologies have increased inequality in our world. Not just differences in material wealth, which are also significant, but also differences in access to political and social influence.”[103] In this sense,…

Nah I want to see the numbers on this. Before technology we lived in feudalism. There’s no more unequal system than that.

Post by axus » Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 4:06 PM UTC

simonw wrote: post #19

I enjoyed this bit - great use of the word "idolatry": ---- 104. Technology offers remarkable tools to oversee and develop the world's resources. However, in some cases, humanity is increasingly ceding control of these resources to machines. Within some circles of scientists and futurists, there is optimism about the potential of artificial general intelligence (AGI), a hypothetical form of AI that would match or sur…

Post by thrance » Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 4:10 PM UTC

bilbo0s wrote: post #72

kouru225 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we have AGI then I doubt that the rich people will be able to control it at all

We already have billions of AGIs running all over the planet. The wealthy seem to do a pretty good job of keeping them all in line. I don't see any reason that would change in the future. If you want something the wealthy can't control, you'll need to look a good deal further afield than AGI. Think gamma ray bursts, asteroid strikes, or solar flares. But anything built by man, they'll have a pretty good grip on.

Post by svieira » Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 4:11 PM UTC

fakedang wrote: post #73

keiferski wrote: post #24

This might seem unique or unusual, but technology has been intertwined with religion since well, forever, especially if we consider the book to be a form of technology. Personally one of my favorite historical topics is how the printing press had a huge impact on the Reformation. With the Internet more broadly I think we are in the midst of a second “Reformation” in terms of information sources, the media, etc. Anoth…

Technology works well for decentralized religions, like Protestantism and Judaism, where there is no overarching authority on scripture, or where there are multiple entities competing for believers' attention that the majority choose to focus on scientific dogma instead. Once there's a central authority at risk from technology eroding at their base, they will be undermined. Like Catholicism, Islam, the Orthodox Churc…

Post by philipov » Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 4:11 PM UTC

achierius wrote: post #93

lokimedes wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My own reflection on this idolatry has been along the lines of how readily some people are at negating their own and humanity in general’s fundamental agency. Having AGI, SAI, etc. is completely meaningless if we as our own agents are not there to value it. In a sense, people preaching the coming dominance of AI are suicidal or homicidal, since they are pursuing their own demise by technical means.

Pope Francis talks exactly about this in the letter: > 38. ... The Church is particularly opposed to those applications that threaten the sanctity of life or the dignity of the human person.[78] Like any human endeavor, technological development must be directed to serve the human person and contribute to the pursuit of “greater justice, more extensive fraternity, and a more humane order of social relations,” which a…