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I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Re: I do not want AI to "polish" me

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Post by unsupp0rted »

thrwaway1985882 wrote: post #11

I've only recently started using AI, and have discovered my use or rejection of it is predicated on my feelings for the task. This argument of "authenticity" really resonates. I'm a manager, so when I'm sending emails to a customer or talking with one of my reports, I care deeply - so you might get some overwrought florid prose, but it's my overwrought florid prose. On the other hand, I have to lead a weekly meeting…

I’m hoping part of the ai revolution will be to eliminate overweight florid prose. The excuse can be “it’s terse because AI wrote it”.

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cmrdporcupine wrote: post #64
burkaman wrote: post #32

Obviously the AI version is bland and terrible, but arguably more importantly it has also completely changed the meaning of the message. The AI version: - apologizes - implies the recipient was "promised" this email as a "response" to something - blames a hectic schedule - invites questions None of this was in or was even implied in the original. This is not a "polished" version, it's just a straight-up different ema…

The AI has some ... "ideas" ... of its own on what workplace relationships apparently need to be like.

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Post by danparsonson »

MrMcCall wrote: post #172
danparsonson wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You said "Note that this all started with all that digital coin-mining" But it didn't. That's what I'm saying.

They weren't using modern GPUs and muiltiprocessor machines to cook the Earth, which has been happening on a large scale since the turn of this century. That's what I was and still am saying.

No, we were burning coal and cutting down trees. I'm not saying that what we're doing now is fine, if anything I'm agreeing with you but pointing out that profit-driven environmental destruction has been happening since way before the invention of cryptocurrency.

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Post by dspillett »

timewizard wrote: post #208
dspillett wrote: post #206

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Clippy (and his predecessors, he wasn't one of the first avatars for the feature) might not have been so bad, but marketing got hold of it and decided it didn't pop up often enough for them to really make a big thing of, so it was tuned up to an irritating level. > It is unclear what the industry thinks has changed The demographics of computer (and other device) use have changed massively since the late 90s, and the…

I remember when software would ask you on first start what your level of experience was. "Novice, Intermediate, Expert" and would tune the UI to respect that.

Sometimes different modes like that can be more hassle than they are worth, from the dev point of view. You can end up with many more paths to test in order to try make sure your product is bug free.

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Post by account42 »

spencerflem wrote: post #234
Sharlin wrote: post #81

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Yes, of course that’s how it will go in reality. But some customers are terrible people from the start and definitely don’t deserve any human service.

An empowered customer service team could do this by refusing service. Its an offense to justice that its so easy to get away with being mean to service workers.

The alternative is being mean to more expensively paid workers. That's what the suppart staff is ultimately paid for.

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Post by Sharlin »

spencerflem wrote: post #234
Sharlin wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, of course that’s how it will go in reality. But some customers are terrible people from the start and definitely don’t deserve any human service.

An empowered customer service team could do this by refusing service. Its an offense to justice that its so easy to get away with being mean to service workers.

I definitely don't disagree.

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Post by dzamo_norton »

mrweasel wrote: post #128
pjc50 wrote: post #31

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> no you may not ready my proprietary document, nor do I suspect most people using this particular software - I only have it for digital signatures - have permission to share IP with a third party. This is a massive liability that almost everybody seems to be ignoring. My employer has a ban on using AI on IP until this is properly resolved, because we actually care about it leaking. Maybe an Information Commissioner…

> My employer has a ban on using AI on IP until this is properly resolved, because we actually care about it leaking. Yet I can almost guarantee you that someone has put something they shouldn't through ChatGPT, because they either feel like it's a dumb rule, that should not apply to them, or they where in a hurry and what are the odds of them getting caught.

Oh we can have something stronger than almost a guarantee, I have first hand anecdotes of documents from the financial services sector being fed to ChatGPT for polishing. They weren't trade secrets but their classifications were INTERNAL, _and higher_.

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Post by mywittyname »

TZubiri wrote: post #200
mywittyname wrote: post #121

> Kill me if I ever write "Regards" non-irnoically. One time, I couldn't remember the name of the album I wanted SIRI to play, so it kept picking the wrong one. After the fifth or so time, I told Siri, "you're killing me Siri" and it called 911. The future sucks.

Actually that's pretty cool. Takes you literally and seriously. What did you expect the machine to understand subtleties and responding like an informal friend? I'm fine with AI being 100% serious

If it took me literally, it would have turned itself into the police for attempting to murder its user.

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

bunderbunder wrote: post #160
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #64

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The AI has some ... "ideas" ... of its own on what workplace relationships apparently need to be like.

Have you read the papers on how they optimize these LLMs for demeanor? AI exists in a Matrix where toxic positivity is enforced with electric shocks.

It's the California Ideology, now written into a program.

When I was at Google this tone was so pervasive that we had "CongratBot" to make fun of this stuff, and Memegen to somewhat counteract it.

But Silly Valley is the poster-child for "hey don't be a downer" communications vibes.

As the child of a super-critical German father, it always seems insincere to me.

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