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DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but Google already had models that were as good at much lower cost.

Which models at what cost? IMO Deepseek websearch potential to challenge Google search moat also makes Google particularly vunerable, because it dramatically evaporates advantages of 100s of billions of hardware. Not to imply Google does not maintain advantages, but it gap just went from insurmountable to many actors can potentially build AI search to rival Google on shoe string budget. Certainly on sovereign budget.

Reliably serving planet-scale inference is a whole different ballgame.

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

#34
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which models at what cost? IMO Deepseek websearch potential to challenge Google search moat also makes Google particularly vunerable, because it dramatically evaporates advantages of 100s of billions of hardware. Not to imply Google does not maintain advantages, but it gap just went from insurmountable to many actors can potentially build AI search to rival Google on shoe string budget. Certainly on sovereign budget.

Reliably serving planet-scale inference is a whole different ballgame.

It's going to be an increasingly irrelevant game when models make regional scale, i.e. country/sovereign scale inference attainable. Countries that couldn't even role out domestic search pre accessible models that displaces search likely soon can.

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reliably serving planet-scale inference is a whole different ballgame.

It's going to be an increasingly irrelevant game when models make regional scale, i.e. country/sovereign scale inference attainable. Countries that couldn't even role out domestic search pre accessible models that displaces search likely soon can.

For 2024-level tech I agree. The future is multimodal and a lot of processing power will be needed for that.

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #10

I don't understand the hype because I'm out of the loop. Is the only advantage the lower hardware requirements, thus cost? Is there something I'm missing?

It isn't really hype for me.

For my use, it is better than $20 a month o1 and being able to see the chain of thought is absolutely incredible.

I have learned as much this week from seeing the chain of thought as I have from what it actually outputs.

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

#38
post #7

This is bizarre to see the entire AI hype cycle speedrun all over on just DeepSeek. I'm trying to square the excitement over DeepSeek with its good -but not dominant- performance in evals.

IMO more anti hype for openAI who might be dominant, but are they $3500 per task (O3 high) dominant, or $200 per month dominant.

This is it.

I was planning on spending the $200 for a month but had been thinking of prompts to try it out.

DeepSeek already answered them all for free so I am not just going to light $200 on fire for fun.

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #14
post #10

I don't understand the hype because I'm out of the loop. Is the only advantage the lower hardware requirements, thus cost? Is there something I'm missing?

It's also open source

open weights you mean. People confuse open weights with open source.

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

#40

What is the price?

Free in preview, at least in my personal subscription (there was a disclaimer saying that it was in preview, no guarantees of response times, etc.)

(I work at Microsoft but am not on the clock as I write this, and keep my personal projects separate)

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