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DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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This is exciting. Is there a free version of DeepSeek R1 that's completely US based, so we're not sending data to China? I guess you can use this to deploy it, but I'm asking for an application that would be safer to use if you're concerned about Chinese influence.

https://www.together.ai/pricing

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #7

This is bizarre to see the entire AI hype cycle speedrun all over on just DeepSeek. I'm trying to square the excitement over DeepSeek with its good -but not dominant- performance in evals.

For me the excitement is that around the o3 announcement I had a feeling like we were heading to an OpenAI / Sam Altman controlled dystopia. This resets that - you can run the model yourself, you can modify it yourself, it's essentially on par with the best public models, and it gives hope that the smaller players have a fighting chance going forward. They also published their innovations bringing back some of the feeling of open science that used to be in ML research but which mostly went away.

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #10

I don't understand the hype because I'm out of the loop. Is the only advantage the lower hardware requirements, thus cost? Is there something I'm missing?

Yeah it's a lot more efficient, it's also a very advanced model that answers questions in a multi-step way, like OpenAI-O1, it performs extremely well.

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #10

I don't understand the hype because I'm out of the loop. Is the only advantage the lower hardware requirements, thus cost? Is there something I'm missing?

OpenAI o1 and Deepseek r1 have similar performance (o1 is a bit better at reasoning though you can see r1’s though process which you could argue trumps the competition). OpenAI o1 api cost: $60/million output tokens. Deepseek r1 api cost: $2.19/million output tokens.

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #16
post #10

I don't understand the hype because I'm out of the loop. Is the only advantage the lower hardware requirements, thus cost? Is there something I'm missing?

OpenAI o1 and Deepseek r1 have similar performance (o1 is a bit better at reasoning though you can see r1’s though process which you could argue trumps the competition). OpenAI o1 api cost: $60/million output tokens. Deepseek r1 api cost: $2.19/million output tokens.

https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing https://platform.openai.com/docs/pricing

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #16
post #10

I don't understand the hype because I'm out of the loop. Is the only advantage the lower hardware requirements, thus cost? Is there something I'm missing?

OpenAI o1 and Deepseek r1 have similar performance (o1 is a bit better at reasoning though you can see r1’s though process which you could argue trumps the competition). OpenAI o1 api cost: $60/million output tokens. Deepseek r1 api cost: $2.19/million output tokens.

So basically I can get a ~lifetime supply of r1 tokens for… $20?

Re: DeepSeek R1 Is Now Available on Azure AI Foundry and GitHub

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post #7

This is bizarre to see the entire AI hype cycle speedrun all over on just DeepSeek. I'm trying to square the excitement over DeepSeek with its good -but not dominant- performance in evals.

IMO more anti hype for openAI who might be dominant, but are they $3500 per task (O3 high) dominant, or $200 per month dominant.
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