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Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by miles »

YPPH wrote: post #69
sneak wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should be backing up your email locally regardless, even if you use Google Workspace or Fastmail.

I don't agree with you. A key reason to host your email with a reliable cloud storage provider is to have backups handled for you. Fastmail is particularly good in that respect, since it takes periodic backups for you, allowing deleted items to be accessed. To put things in perspective, I dare say that many large commercial organisations who rely on Office 365 are not backing up emails locally. They do likely have fa…

>> You should be backing up your email locally regardless, even if you use Google Workspace or Fastmail.

> I don't agree with you. A key reason to host your email with a reliable cloud storage provider is to have backups handled for you.

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Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by voussoir »

I've been a Purelymail customer since July 2021. For the most part I have been very satisfied. However, in July 2024 I sent an email to Scott for support because I have been getting too much spam. He said that the spamassassin auto-learning filter was broken and he was working on a replacement. In the time since then, I think maybe it is doing a little better, but I still get quite a lot of spam.

But for $0.40/month I have not had any inclination to switch providers.

https://voussoir.net/spam

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by WrongOnInternet »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #89

Delaware incorporation is the norm, but for anyone who cares about dragnet surveillance, the state of incorporation is important, as well as the country. Proton also does end-to-end encrypted email and supposedly, your emails are never stored decrypted, they are decrypted in your browser and in ingress/egress out of their environment. They're also hosting in switzerland. That said, like many, I also am looking for an…

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Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by sangnoir »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #89

Delaware incorporation is the norm, but for anyone who cares about dragnet surveillance, the state of incorporation is important, as well as the country. Proton also does end-to-end encrypted email and supposedly, your emails are never stored decrypted, they are decrypted in your browser and in ingress/egress out of their environment. They're also hosting in switzerland. That said, like many, I also am looking for an…

> They're also hosting in switzerland.

Crypto AG was also based in Switzerland - that by itself mattered very little because it was owned by the CIA and the West Germany Intelligence service.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by thayne »

KetoManx64 wrote: post #11
teamx wrote: post #6

Whats the reason for using this over free options like gmail?

Your emails aren't being anaylyzed to create a profile about for being used for targeted ads.

Except for all the emails you send to all the other people still using Gmail.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

#106

Post by notpushkin »

cuu508 wrote: post #79
notpushkin wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you can still add an SMTP server in Gmail, and it will use that (with a proper From header, DKIM and all).

In a Cloudflare+GMail setup, what SMTP server would I use for sending?

Any third-party one! There’s a bunch of options.

The usual ones like SendGrid or Mailgun are probably not great for personal email, but it could probably work. Personally, I’ve used Duocircle for a similar setup and it worked pretty well: https://www.duocircle.com/email/outbound-smtp

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by dsissitka »

freeone3000 wrote: post #76
swaits wrote: post #74

This is unfair comparison to Proton as it is bundled with their VPN, Calendar, Drive, and Password manager. Given all it comes with, it's very competitively priced. Additionally, they've been at it a long time and built a strong brand around privacy.

But you can’t debundle those — you cannot get ProtonMail (which doesn’t have IMAP) without ProtonCalendar (which doesn’t have CalDAV), ProtonVPN, Proton Password Manager, and an expanding suite of services I already have solutions for that I like better. Being cheaper and only doing mail is a huge plus.

It looks like standalone Proton Mail might still be available:

https://proton.me/mail/pricing

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

#108

Post by sneak »

YPPH wrote: post #69
sneak wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should be backing up your email locally regardless, even if you use Google Workspace or Fastmail.

I don't agree with you. A key reason to host your email with a reliable cloud storage provider is to have backups handled for you. Fastmail is particularly good in that respect, since it takes periodic backups for you, allowing deleted items to be accessed. To put things in perspective, I dare say that many large commercial organisations who rely on Office 365 are not backing up emails locally. They do likely have fa…

As miles pointed out, the risk is not that they lose your data. The risk is that you lose your account.

They don’t owe you a data download if they decide to terminate the business relationship which they can do at any time without notice or cause. You agree to this when you sign up.

Not having backups of important data in your own possession is just plain stupid. You’re paying them to be online 24/7 and speak IMAP/SMTP, not to archive your data in perpetuity.

Email hosting and backups are different services.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

#109

Post by thayne »

manishsharan wrote: post #20

This is lovely. However I am also curious and in awe : how did this company survive and acquire paying customers with so many well established competitors and so many free alternatives? I am seeking inspiration!

AFAIK (and I have looked) no free options have all of the following features: support for custom domains, support for imap, a decent amount of storage.

Most users don't need all of those things, but there is a niche that does, and are willing to pay a little bit to get it.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by pyromaker »

I looked into Purelymail when searching around for good email solution. Google Workspace was getting a bit costly and there were too many things I did not need.

Zoho Mail provides another option - $1.95 per month I think for my use where I am (AU) and has all the features I need for my small indie business.

One other option I tried was to actually run mail myself with Linode VPS - https://mailinabox.email/

I know it sounds a little scary at the start running your own thing, but so far it's been working out great - zero issues so far. I may turn off Zoho one day and go fully into self-hosted option.

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