It’s been around for several years and the homepage still says it’s in beta. I understand that any platform may have undiscovered bugs and issues, but an update on the progress (any indication of improved stability) would be helpful.
Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email
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#72> No arbitrary limits. Have as many users and store as much mail as you want. There is absolutely a limit. If you don't think you have a limit, it's because you don't have your asshole building his too-clever, "mountable PurelyMailFS" project or whatever yet. So you have a limit, but you aren't telling us what it is, or you don't know what it is. And an unknown arbitrary limit is worse than an arbitrary limit. EDIT:…
I get where your mentality is coming from, but I've been with my current mark provider who has "no limits" for twenty years without problems. I've been with my unlimited backup provider for over a decade without any problems. They keep increasing their available fee but that's ok for how much I'm backing up (several terabytes). It pays in life not to be too cynical.
Mark?
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#73How difficult is exporting from one provider into another (e.g. from gmail into proton or purely)? I guess normies like me are a bit hesitant due to the risk of messing it up (would be a disaster to lose years of emails, as some are important for record-keeping). Curious to hear from people who've done(/attempted) it and how it went? Was it hard? Were there risks? Any regrets?
I migrated from Fastmail to Proton last week. I found the whole process pretty painless. Proton has an IMAP migration. Took it a few days, maybe even three. But everything ended up working just fine.
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#74This is unfair comparison to Proton as it is bundled with their VPN, Calendar, Drive, and Password manager. Given all it comes with, it's very competitively priced. Additionally, they've been at it a long time and built a strong brand around privacy.
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#75I also use this. Pros: super cheap. Cons: UI is bad, so you'll want to access through a client. 1 person shop. Not audited AFAIK.
+ is not gmail.
+ is industry standard, supported by almost all mail servers (if configured) since long before gmail existed.
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#76This is unfair comparison to Proton as it is bundled with their VPN, Calendar, Drive, and Password manager. Given all it comes with, it's very competitively priced. Additionally, they've been at it a long time and built a strong brand around privacy.
But you can’t debundle those — you cannot get ProtonMail (which doesn’t have IMAP) without ProtonCalendar (which doesn’t have CalDAV), ProtonVPN, Proton Password Manager, and an expanding suite of services I already have solutions for that I like better. Being cheaper and only doing mail is a huge plus.
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#77Customer for a few years now. I don't do anything fancy with it. It was the cheapest and most appealing option for a custom domain for personal email. I think it runs me ~$11 a year or something I combine it with simplelogin to handle all my aliasing needs. Thanks for the great service.
How is deliverability? Because for $11/year you can get a simple kvm machine and run your own servers.
I have heard this a lot of times but self hosting email is one of the hardest things to do , sure if you are masochist then do it , but if you are a working functional part of society , not recommended.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haunted by AI? I haven’t heard of problems with Proton outside of their calendar implementation, which I’ve heard they’re fixing this year.
They have an optional writing assistant thing that uses their own in-house model. Sweden is mostly hydro and nuclear, so the environmental arguments against generative AI don't hold up very well.
oh lmao , I had just watched a video where people were confusing sweden and swiss (heck the swiss president missaid switzerland to sweden lmao)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oNX_BHgi3c
I was like , okay nobody confuses swiss and sweden but here you are!
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
iirc with this setup, Google just changes the "reply-to" and someone can still figure out your actual Gmail address.
I think you can still add an SMTP server in Gmail, and it will use that (with a proper From header, DKIM and all).
In a Cloudflare+GMail setup, what SMTP server would I use for sending?
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#80For the use case presented, one user 3GB, Zoho is absolutely free. It's free for up to 5 users at 5GB each, in fact.
I've been using it for a few years now and love it. Will gladly pay if they kick me off the free plan.