Is it worse than apple intelligence butchering news summaries though?
Much. I love the Apple summaries. Even the wrong ones provide context.
The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
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Teams is the most loathsome piece of collaboration software I have ever used. When it comes to finding basic things, the UX is so far from intuitive that it makes you wonder if they're just trolling us with these awful designs. I remember being excited about a Slack competitor when it first came out, but the same issues it had back then still exist to this day. I wish they would just pull the plug on that piece of cr…
I still don't understand why Ctrl plus shift plus C starts a call on teams when V pastes text unformatted and it is right next to it. At least let me reassign this shortcut...
And the New Teams removed the ability to copy formatted chat logs with timestamps! I used that every single day
Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
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Not only did the megacorp CEO's drop the ball on AI... we've got them gloating over widespread firing of engineers due to AI and then quotes like "I'm good for my $80B" like its his own personal money bag. And now they're force feeding crappy alpha AI products. The egos are well out of hand. And they give this group the name "The Magnificent Seven". WTF have we become. We trust these companies to be stewards of AGI/A…
So much this, when you see Zuck or even Jensen Huang saying "software engineers won't be needed anymore" and being excited about it you get pissed off as a software engineer lol. I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" so it doesn't surprise me that 365 went the same way. I'm saying this and I'm a person that's usua…
> why such a rush?
OpenAI alone spent $20G plus some unknown value to make the first version of it we have now. They and all the others need to justify the investment.
Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
#284I have not used Office for years, but I still can't imagine using anything else to write a document if I ever need to.
Serious question: what is the last version of Office (or Office for Mac) that I can purchase that doesn't include AI features? Are there 202x versions still available that will never be updated with AI features?
It might be the last piece of Microsoft software I purchase for a good decade.
Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
#285My problem with this isn't the price increase. It's the blurring of what used to be a clearly understandable suite of products (e.g. Office) and services (e.g. OneDrive) into a soup of weird AI and cloud stuff that all goes under a single unhelpful name (Copilot). My mental model of what I'm actually purchasing is broken in this new paradigm.
Clearly understandable? Every time someone tells me on Teams about "the file they shared last week", I struggle to find out if I need to go to Onedrive, SharePoint, the Teams channel "files", the Teams channel "documents", etc. It's the most confusing piece of software I'm forced to use...
I work in IT support helping customers with this type of thing and this specific problem you just described still trips me up regularly.
And it's been like that at at least 3 or 4 companies I've worked at so it's not just this specific organisation.
Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
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> that all goes under a single unhelpful name (Copilot) This isn't even a new dumb move for Microsoft. In the early 2000s, they applied the .NET brand to lots of random things that were completely unrelated to the runtime/framework: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_.NET_strategy
They are doing the same thing to Xbox right now. Really working hard to kill the brand.
Yep. I've been an Xbox player since 2002. Huge Halo fan. Thousands of hours on 3 different generations of Xbox. I still have my Halo 3 special edition helmet. I keep up with gaming news and listen to multiple gaming podcasts every week.
But even I can't reliably name the last two generations of Xbox without a pause. I always have to stop for a second and think it thru because the naming scheme is so abysmal.
Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
#287I have not used Office for years, but I still can't imagine using anything else to write a document if I ever need to. Serious question: what is the last version of Office (or Office for Mac) that I can purchase that doesn't include AI features? Are there 202x versions still available that will never be updated with AI features? It might be the last piece of Microsoft software I purchase for a good decade.
Microsoft still sells boxed versions. Pretty sure those don't have any online connectivity requirements.
Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
#28830 years of their home name Office brand, known by pretty much every person that's ever had a computer let's get rid of that, and make the unreliable bullshit generator the main brand instead certainly a courageous decision
That was my line of thinking as well. The article pointed out that they rebranded to Office 365, then Microsoft 365 and now Microsoft 365 Copilot. The thing is, no one ever calls it anything but Office, maybe Office 365 if they're being real fancy and specifically want to refer to the subscription service. My take is that Microsoft assumed that everyone is calling it Microsoft 365, which they don't. 30 years of ownin…
I feel like there has to be some weird cultural problem at Microsoft where nobody wants to speak up about obviously bad ideas.
They destroyed the entire Xbox brand overnight and hampered any chance at recovery with a stupid confusing naming scheme... now it seems like they've learned nothing from that?
Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
#289But what consequences will a really large company face for such a prominent disaster? They got what they wanted, which is an excuse to force everyone into paying for new AI products through price increases forced into enterprise contract renewals. It is the same thing that Google just did with Google Workspace or Google Apps or whatever their office suite is called now, where everyone is forced to pay for their new G…
You should have seen the great deal I got on LibreOffice from TDF!
Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster
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Why would shareholders have a problem with it? People with big money currently value AI bullshit more than recognizable branding.
Because Microsoft just pissed away their biggest brand after Windows and maybe Microsoft. Brand recognition holds value, a lot of value. Imagine Pepsi deciding that they are done with Pepsi Max, arguably their biggest brand, after Pepsi itself, and decides that it's now Pepsi Cake. Just kill of all references to their biggest brand. That wouldn't go down well and Microsoft is only getting away with it because pretty…
Yep. They obviously learned nothing from killing Xbox overnight.
As an IT person I can guarantee this rebranding is going to cause confusion that will waste my time.
That being said, Coke killed Coke Zero and seems to be doing okay I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯