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Distribution of colors in movie posters between 1914 and 2012

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Re: Distribution of colors in movie posters between 1914 and 2012

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I think that's far. I mostly posted because I don't want people to believe that $5k is the most you could get for this project. There are infinite ways you could add a ton of value to this project that would be worth more than $5k. Automating the data retrieval and plugging it into mechanical turk for verification, being able to critique or comment on the deeper meaning of the change in colors. Or even online marketi…

I'm sorry, isn't this just a histogram of all the posters for that year? Am I missing something (e.g. a page I didn't see)? It doesn't take that long to make a histogram of a "movie posters year X" Google image search...

No, you're right.

But from your comment "it doesn't take that long.." its clear to me we're thinking about this in two different ways.

You're saying, "Here's how long it would take me..." hourly * estimate.

I'm saying, "Here's how to add more business value..." business_value * my_cut_to_decimal

If you can, perhaps by not even programming, make business_value a large enough number then (business_value * my_cut_to_decimal) > (hourly * estimate).

I'd go one step further and argue that the higher price is a win for both parties. You get paid more, and the company has just discovered a slot that they can slide money into and get more money back out off.

Re: Distribution of colors in movie posters between 1914 and 2012

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post #52

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I'm sorry, isn't this just a histogram of all the posters for that year? Am I missing something (e.g. a page I didn't see)? It doesn't take that long to make a histogram of a "movie posters year X" Google image search...

No, you're right. But from your comment "it doesn't take that long.." its clear to me we're thinking about this in two different ways. You're saying, "Here's how long it would take me..." hourly * estimate. I'm saying, "Here's how to add more business value..." business_value * my_cut_to_decimal If you can, perhaps by not even programming, make business_value a large enough number then (business_value * my_cut_to_dec…

Oh, sure, I agree with that. It's just that the OP was talking about what it would take for him to hire someone to do this, so I went with that.

Re: Distribution of colors in movie posters between 1914 and 2012

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It would be interesting to combine this information with boxofficemojo and adjust the distribution of colors based on box office revenue assuming that box office revenue correlates to mindshare, you would have a closer map to what people 'thought' a movie poster would look like in that year.

Re: Distribution of colors in movie posters between 1914 and 2012

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Nowhere does he say that he spent all of the 2 weeks working on this entirely. My guess would be that he did a 2-day sprint to hack the prototype and a bit more to polish it across the 2 weeks. Point is - he would not bill 2 working weeks were it a contracting gig. But then again, where'd you get such a motivated contractor (cf. working on own project)?

If he did it in a 2-day sprint, that makes it even more amazing -- which was my point. It seems unlikely to me that I could find someone to do the same quality of work as a contracting gig (whether it took 2 days or 2 months) and charge less than tens of thousands of dollars.

I am willing to bet that the same person couldn't even get as far in 2 days/weeks if you were hiring him for this project. Contracting comes with significant additional overhead that quickly eats up the time.

You might find the results you seek if you offered to pay someone for two days to work on whatever they wanted. However, even then, you're apt to not get anything of quality back. I'm sure the person who has created this work has thrown away many more projects.

Re: Distribution of colors in movie posters between 1914 and 2012

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I immediately starting scanning the colors to see if this blog post from a couple of years ago was vindicated about all movies being teal and orange: http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/03/teal-and-orange-ho... It is.

It definitely does seam to go teal heavy from the 80's onward.

Re: Distribution of colors in movie posters between 1914 and 2012

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Right. Can you imagine a film with the quality of Toy Story being produced just for fun? Not a chance. ThAt film took thousands of man-years to make. The whole open source everything movement is just communist nonsense that typically comes from people who have never had to make a payroll. Rails for example was the open source result of a profit-creating piece of software: Basecamp. The profits enabled the open source…

Many great films are made on a fraction of the budget required to produce something like Toy Story. And anyway I don't think it's hard to imagine Pixar artists saying they were more motivated by the pure joy of creating something than by their paychecks. There are bad movies that are created specifically to be monetized -- that people need money is beside the point that often those who create the really good stuff ar…

If that were true, there would be other movies like Toy Story, but "open".

Re: Distribution of colors in movie posters between 1914 and 2012

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That's why people spouting "open-source is always less quality" and "without paying artists there would be no culture" are so dead wrong. People who feel the urge to create and do, will do so. And to me, things that were created for one's own enjoyment are pretty much always better than things created to be monetised.

Right. Can you imagine a film with the quality of Toy Story being produced just for fun? Not a chance. ThAt film took thousands of man-years to make. The whole open source everything movement is just communist nonsense that typically comes from people who have never had to make a payroll. Rails for example was the open source result of a profit-creating piece of software: Basecamp. The profits enabled the open source…

But is Toy Story really the best of our culture? Just because it was expensive and hard doesn't necessarily mean it was te est (for the record, I have loved almost everything Pixar has done).

Asked another way: if the Pixars of the world were to disappear, would it be a net loss for our society? I'm not sure the answer to that is "yes".

Re: Distribution of colors in movie posters between 1914 and 2012

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In the associated blog post he says: Methodology: I downloaded ~ 35k thumbnailed-size images (yay wget -- “The Social Network” inspired me to not use curl) Could some who's seen the film enlighten me on why wget is better than curl? Thanks.

HTTPie[1] is better than both. ;)

1. https://github.com/jkbr/httpie

(I am in no way affiliated with this project. I'm just a happy user.)

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