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Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by bb88 »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #94
bb88 wrote: post #53

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They basically did at some point about a decade or so ago maybe. Wimax and LTE were taking off at that time. Then about 2 years ago, Google woke up and started pushing fiber again. It's clear now that high speed fiber is the future. Cable companies aren't upgrading their networks anymore. It's unclear if the wireless companies will be able to support 10gig service. And the single mode fiber laid into the ground a dec…

is there any desire for residential 10g service? it's pretty hard to image how 90% of families would use up 200meg

That's kinda like saying back in the 1990's that 90% of families wouldn't use more than 56.6k.

Well, because that's all they had access to.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by ErrantX »

martinald wrote: post #47
ErrantX wrote: post #19

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Just for a global comparison. Fibre is pretty ubiquitous in the UK but very little over 1G, and not usually symmetrical. Most top end packages are 1G and go for between $45-70 depending on the reseller. But you can get it pretty much anywhere that qualifies as a decent sized town. (We do have close-to a monopoly on the backbone, which is good for coverage but bad for speeds, looks like they are finally starting to ro…

Not true re Openreach monopoly - openreach ftth is approx 51% premises covered, altnets cover 40% of the country ( https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/uk ), so not much in it at the moment. On top of that, Virgin Media is upgrading their existing 18m home DOCSIS network to FTTH plus their nexfibre build will take them to probably 25m+ homes. So by the end of the decade the average UK household is going to have acce…

Fair but apart from Virgin, many of those Altnets rely on (and pay for) OR ducts & poles.

Am surprised to see Gb coverage that low!

Edit: that link is super interesting but I think they need to break it down a bit more. E.g. CityFibre, YouFibre and LightSpeed all seem to be counted under Altnets but all are very different setups.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by dnsbty »

kelnos wrote: post #169
advarkcal wrote: post #83

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Have you considered Monkeybrains? For the price the service is fantastic, and with some of their new upgrades speeds are pretty good for most of SF. Caveat: I work from home so I keep my comcast subscription as a backup and have a router with automatic failover. I would say this is not worth it for most people and just Monkeybrains is sufficent.

What kind of speeds? When I last contacted them (maybe 3 years ago?) they said they could only guarantee 35Mbps symmetrical, but that most people see more like 80Mbps. That's... not good at all.

I think it depends where you’re at. I got 1gb through them and it was pretty dependable.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by iancmceachern »

advarkcal wrote: post #98
arebop wrote: post #85

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Yes, but it requires landlord cooperation.

I would recommend talking to Monkeybrains they should be familiar with the law, I don't think landlords in San Francsico are allowed to limit isp choice https://www.sfexaminer.com/our_sections/forum/san-francisco-...

They're not but often it (monkeybrains, Verizon 5g, etc.) Require installing hardware on the roof of the building, that requires landlord approval and can be challenging in say, a huge office building

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by saagarjha »

anonymousiam wrote: post #113
rconti wrote: post #12

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Yep, my in-laws in Menlo Park had insanely slow SBC DSL with high packet loss. SBC actually just discontinued the service rather than do anything useful. I once paid that ridiculous $149/mo for the 1gig Comcast service until I got tired of the bill that I was really only paying for bragging rights, and went back to 250Mbps.

$149/mo for 1gbps doesn't seem too bad compared with the $699/mo I was paying for 8mbps DSL back in the 90's. At the time, it was still cheaper than a T1 (1.544mbps).

This is a joke, right? Please let this be a joke.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by saagarjha »

ghaff wrote: post #43
rconti wrote: post #12

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Yep, my in-laws in Menlo Park had insanely slow SBC DSL with high packet loss. SBC actually just discontinued the service rather than do anything useful. I once paid that ridiculous $149/mo for the 1gig Comcast service until I got tired of the bill that I was really only paying for bragging rights, and went back to 250Mbps.

I honestly don't understand what the big deal is with the higher speed tiers. I forget what my house theoretically gets but, in practice, it's less than 100 down from Comcast and that's perfectly fine for what I use it for. I'm a bit under $100/mo and wouldn't pay to upgrade.

I semi-frequently run into situations that are bottlenecked on my internet speed, that I could of course just walk away from if it took too long but is nice to really have complete in seconds instead. I think the biggest one for me is downloading updates and software tools.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by saagarjha »

codazoda wrote: post #141
climb_stealth wrote: post #127

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It's always interesting to read these discussions from a misdeveloped country like Australia. Where symmetric broadband is a pipe dream. And the lived reality in the city is 100Mps down and something like 17Mbps up. I mean it still works for everything. But in comparison other people are living in some kind of techno utopia. At least our banking system is modern so we can pay for our shitty internet without having to…

100Mbps? That does put it in perspective. We gotta design our sites first this y’all.

There are people who have 1 Mbps connections too.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by maartenh »

reassembled wrote: post #132
rconti wrote: post #12

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Yep, my in-laws in Menlo Park had insanely slow SBC DSL with high packet loss. SBC actually just discontinued the service rather than do anything useful. I once paid that ridiculous $149/mo for the 1gig Comcast service until I got tired of the bill that I was really only paying for bragging rights, and went back to 250Mbps.

A couple of years ago I had my 6Mbps ATT DSL reduced down to less than 1Mbps, to the point of being absolutely useless. I had no forewarning or notice that my service had been compromised. Every attempt to obtain support from ATT was met with attempts to get me to switch to cellular internet. Fortunately I was able to get accepted into the StarLink early access around that time and managed to cancel the DSL. Even tho…

Wow. In the EU, canceling subscriptions must be as easy as signing up for them by law.

My personal longest issue with ISP's was when the software config once went wrong in their side, took me a month and allmost daily phone calls until I got to 4th line support that was an actual techie who fixed it in 10 minutes.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by saagarjha »

deepsun wrote: post #168
rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

What is "gig"? I'm familiar with Gbps and GB/s, one is 8x of another. But what is "gig"?

1 Gbps.
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