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Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by codazoda »

climb_stealth wrote: post #127
ipdashc wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most consumer devices are still on gigabit Ethernet at the fastest, no - or am I just badly out of date? Heck, anywhere above a few gigs, I feel like you'd start getting bottlenecked by whatever's on the other end of the connection. Still, pretty cool to hear that…

It's always interesting to read these discussions from a misdeveloped country like Australia. Where symmetric broadband is a pipe dream. And the lived reality in the city is 100Mps down and something like 17Mbps up. I mean it still works for everything. But in comparison other people are living in some kind of techno utopia. At least our banking system is modern so we can pay for our shitty internet without having to…

100Mbps? That does put it in perspective. We gotta design our sites first this y’all.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by yieldcrv »

ipdashc wrote: post #124
rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most consumer devices are still on gigabit Ethernet at the fastest, no - or am I just badly out of date? Heck, anywhere above a few gigs, I feel like you'd start getting bottlenecked by whatever's on the other end of the connection. Still, pretty cool to hear that…

I get up to 90 megabytes/s download over wifi at my current place, and decent upload. I don't use it much, I just appreciate that I can do it quickly

for the last year I've been downloading Large Language Models through LM Studio's Huggingface browser, and I'm glad I can do that quickly

and pirating movies and tv shows again

other things that rely on some data don't get disrupted either

I'd like to run some service from my place, but I probably won't.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by BobaFloutist »

MostlyStable wrote: post #37
rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

Meanwhile, I'm paying 120/month for 150MB down, 75 up to my rural telco-op, and compared to the satellite internet I had before, I'm happy to be paying it.

I mean my "symmetrical 10G fiber" is actually 150MB up/down once it come through my router to my laptop, so while expensive, your speed is perfectly respectable.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by Retric »

kcb wrote: post #121
ghaff wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly don't understand what the big deal is with the higher speed tiers. I forget what my house theoretically gets but, in practice, it's less than 100 down from Comcast and that's perfectly fine for what I use it for. I'm a bit under $100/mo and wouldn't pay to upgrade.

Pretty nice to be able to download a modern game in a few minutes instead of a few hours.

Sure, and that’s worth spending how much per month?

I mean if I was forced to sit and stare at a download screen then sure it’d be worth it to me. However even at 2+Gigabit I’m not going to sit and stare about the download screen so it’s kind of meaningless how long it takes. I’ve got plenty of other stuff to do for a while.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by macshome »

ipdashc wrote: post #124
rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most consumer devices are still on gigabit Ethernet at the fastest, no - or am I just badly out of date? Heck, anywhere above a few gigs, I feel like you'd start getting bottlenecked by whatever's on the other end of the connection. Still, pretty cool to hear that…

For a lot of people the benefits show up because they have more devices sharing that connection. Before our kids moved to school we had 5 people on our home connection. Each with multiple devices, all trying to work or play games or stream content at the same time.

For one person with one computer it’s probably delightful overkill. For a modern family unit it can make everyone happy.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by sneak »

Can’t come soon enough. I pay over $200/mo for Cox here in LV (including a surcharge for “unlimited data”) and still get 20% of advertised speeds at 7pm and nastygrams when I upload a 2TB photography backup.

Cox and CenturyLink are monopolistic criminals and should receive corporate death penalties for their misconduct.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by rayiner »

rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

You can look this up! https://investors.att.com/~/media/Files/A/ATT-IR-V2/financia.... Page 2. Consumer wireline operating margin was 4.8%.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by rayiner »

ipdashc wrote: post #124
rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most consumer devices are still on gigabit Ethernet at the fastest, no - or am I just badly out of date? Heck, anywhere above a few gigs, I feel like you'd start getting bottlenecked by whatever's on the other end of the connection. Still, pretty cool to hear that…

I’ve got 10 gig with 5 millisecond ping to Ashburn (Comcast’s gigabit x10, so it’s a full 10 gig port to the head end, not PON) and web surfing still sucks because JavaScript.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by throwaway2037 »

rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

Nice post. Thank you to share.

    > And you know AT&T's shareholders are still making money hand over fist at that price
I believe you, but why is Google Fiber so slow to expand?

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by dtaht »

throwaway314155 wrote: post #112
cletus wrote: post #100

Speaking as a former Google Fiber software engineer, I'm honestly surprised this is still around. In 2017, basically all the Google Fiber software teams went on hiatus (mine included). I can't speak to the timing or rationale but my theory is that the Google leadership couldn't decide if the future of Internet was wired or wireless and a huge investment in wired may be invalidated if the future Internet was wired so…

> In 2017, basically all the Google Fiber software teams went on hiatus (mine included). What does a hiatus entail in this case? Did these teams all just stop working on Fiber stuff and sit around all day hoping they would be given something to do?

They laid us all off. They had huge plans - millions of users! Then they intersected reality in KC where all people wanted was 5Mbit service and free TV... There were many, many people working to perfect the settop box for example. We got fq_codel running on the wifi, we never got anywhere on the shaper, the plan was to move 1+m units of that (horrible integrated chip the comcerto C2000 - it didn´t have coherent cache in some cases), I think they barely cracked 100k before pulling the plug on it all....

and still that box was better than what most fiber folk have delivered to date.

At least some good science was done about how ISPs really work... and published.

https://netdevconf.org/1.1/talk-measuring-wifi-performance-a...

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