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Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#81
I remember reading about Google Fiber in the news 10+ years ago. At that time the idea of having a multi-gigabit internet connection at home felt very exciting and futuristic. Today, fiber at home is almost a given in many countries. I mean, it is good that LA residents will have access to fast internet. But this is commodity now. I don't get it why is this in the news.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#82
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> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

> The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing.

You say that like it (edit to clarify: "it" = "unchanged broadband pricing") is a bad thing, though. Sure, it'd be nice if we had 1 Gb internet for <$30 like Denmark or wherever. But I will gladly sing praises to GFiber's speeds and stable prices given the hellhole of Comcast and CenturyLink I was previously living with.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#83
post #21
post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

A lot of people lately are complaining about a lack of price stability, it seems like a good angle. Also as an SF resident with no realistic alternative to Comcast cable, I'd appreciate a provider who didn't try to sneak price increases onto my bill a couple of times a year. In a healthy market I wouldn't expect big margins for sellers, but honestly if someone's making insane profits by selling me a product or servic…

Have you considered Monkeybrains? For the price the service is fantastic, and with some of their new upgrades speeds are pretty good for most of SF.

Caveat: I work from home so I keep my comcast subscription as a backup and have a router with automatic failover. I would say this is not worth it for most people and just Monkeybrains is sufficent.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#84
post #5

I'm surprised Google hasn't forgotten about Google fiber.

It does align pretty closely to their mission statement "to organize the world's information and make it accessible and useful for everyone", so it might be easier to make a case for its continued existence.

It also is another branch of Alphabet so not directly in the Google mgmt chain.

Though it looks like Alphabet is looking to sell it off, according to a reuters article Feb 5th, 2024.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#85
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people lately are complaining about a lack of price stability, it seems like a good angle. Also as an SF resident with no realistic alternative to Comcast cable, I'd appreciate a provider who didn't try to sneak price increases onto my bill a couple of times a year. In a healthy market I wouldn't expect big margins for sellers, but honestly if someone's making insane profits by selling me a product or servic…

Have you considered Monkeybrains? For the price the service is fantastic, and with some of their new upgrades speeds are pretty good for most of SF. Caveat: I work from home so I keep my comcast subscription as a backup and have a router with automatic failover. I would say this is not worth it for most people and just Monkeybrains is sufficent.

Yes, but it requires landlord cooperation.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#86
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did kill it before. But it's back again.

GOOGLE: There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive.

And when they’re all dead, there’s only one thing you can do: Run their pockets and look for loose change.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#87
post #5

I'm surprised Google hasn't forgotten about Google fiber.

I'm forced to conclude that it's actually making money, else they would have killed it by now. I have it - signed up the day it was available at my house. One of the few Google things I'm pretty sure will continue to exist.

I have also had Google Fiber since near its inception. I imagine it is profitable for Google because instead of tracking my browsing data, Google can just track all my packets now.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#88
post #2

A common complaint I hear at defcon and other cons in vegas is that the hotel internet is terrible. Hopefully good internet service comes as a result of this?

The largest hotels around, like Caesars Palace, might have 4000 rooms. So if they had, for example, a 10 Gbps link for the building - that's only 2.5 Mbps per room if everyone wants to use it. Fine when 98% of guests don't want to use it, totally inadequate if all your guests want to use it. And as I understand things, if someone's offering you a 10 gigabit link for $150 they're relying on you only using it a tiny %…

I mean, no one is expecting commercial-grade fiber at residential prices, but even taking that into account, these hotels (which are almost all owned by 3 companies) can afford to drop a few dozen grand a month on internet and not even notice the bill

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#89
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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just for a global comparison. Fibre is pretty ubiquitous in the UK but very little over 1G, and not usually symmetrical. Most top end packages are 1G and go for between $45-70 depending on the reseller. But you can get it pretty much anywhere that qualifies as a decent sized town. (We do have close-to a monopoly on the backbone, which is good for coverage but bad for speeds, looks like they are finally starting to ro…

I can't even get it in zone 2 in London :(

This seems to be A Thing; city centers get bad internet. In Dublin if you look at coverage maps, the whole central area is an island of VDSL and DOCSIS in a sea of FTTH.

Not totally sure why.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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post #80
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> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

Wait, an optical fiber is that expensive in the USA? In France, the price for a symetrical 8 Gbit/s optical fiber is 50€/month (about $52) at the two fastest and most expensive companies! It's also 50€/month for professionals.

Doesn’t France have a lot of installation incentives and a large govt push towards 100% fiber?

Amazing what an administration with a goal can achieve…

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