form the specs I've seen of the Pre, it is about twice the thickness of the iPhone and the other dimensions are only slightly less. I guess you will find the Pre also large and clunky.
Palm Pre is .19 of an inch thicker than the iphone, and over half an inch shorter. Great size for an average hand or a pocket. Here are the numbers: http://palmpre.org/palm-pre-vs-iphone-storm-g1
Palm Pre is .19 of an inch thicker than the iphone, and over half an inch shorter. Great size for an average hand or a pocket. Here are the numbers: http://palmpre.org/palm-pre-vs-iphone-storm-g1
http://technologizer.com/2009/01/09/palm-pre-vs-apple-iphone... shows these dimensions: pre 3.96” by 2.34” by 0.67”; 4.76 oz. iPhone 4.3″ by 2.4″by 0.33″; 4.05 oz. At least one of the articles is incorrect.
I'm guessing that they're measuring the Pre (or the iPhone) in different locations.
I hate to sound like an Apple fanboy, but you need more than a pretty phone to dethrone the iPhone. The App store is the best thing since sliced bread. The ever-growing developer enthusiasm for the iPhone is a huge factor too. And if webOS is basically web-based, that means that all of Palm's apps will be available on the iPhone, but none of the iPhone's apps will be available on the Palm Pre. Not exactly a winning p…
"And if webOS is basically web-based, that means that all of Palm's apps will be available on the iPhone, but none of the iPhone's apps will be available on the Palm Pre" You are counting on webOS being nothing more than a WebKit browser. I am sure that's not the case. I am also sure the iPhone is not the primary target the Pre is aimed at. There is a host of Windows Mobile, RIM and Symbian slightlycleverphones (it t…
I bet RIM is a tasty target for the Pre.
The inductive charger/stand accessory is really nice, along with the act-like-a-phone and automatic speakerphone functions, this could easily get much love from the business world.
I hate to sound like an Apple fanboy, but you need more than a pretty phone to dethrone the iPhone. The App store is the best thing since sliced bread. The ever-growing developer enthusiasm for the iPhone is a huge factor too. And if webOS is basically web-based, that means that all of Palm's apps will be available on the iPhone, but none of the iPhone's apps will be available on the Palm Pre. Not exactly a winning p…
I say this as an iPhone lover, but I think you might be jumping to conclusions prematurely. Granted, the fact that that iPhone already has an awesome product in the market (version 2.0 at that) puts them light years ahead of the product demo Palm has at the trade show. But just because something is miles ahead of current competition doesn't mean your safe forever. The iPhone has some serious weaknesses, including but…
You missed "physical qwerty keyboard". That's my reason not to get a storm or an iphone, just can't type as fast without it. Pre's got the 320x480 res and a keyboard, and thus my interest. The webkit browser might push it past blackberry as well. I had a treo doing touch for few years, but the browser was useless. I wonder how the push email works on the Pre.
http://technologizer.com/2009/01/09/palm-pre-vs-apple-iphone... shows these dimensions: pre 3.96” by 2.34” by 0.67”; 4.76 oz. iPhone 4.3″ by 2.4″by 0.33″; 4.05 oz. At least one of the articles is incorrect.
I'm guessing that they're measuring the Pre (or the iPhone) in different locations.
I think the mini-revolution Palm's pulled off isn't being understood. They've implemented a full SDK in HTML/CSS/JS. Unlike the helpless widgets of the apple-side, Palm's presenting their entire API as a set of extensions to a pretty forward-looking HTML stack. From what I've seen: - Graphics: HTML5 canvas. No word yet on if it's got the 3D support that's been planned for that canvas. But 2D access for graphics is pr…
Wonderful! I always dreamed of programming phones in HTML/CSS/JS. This is a great step forward from C/C++/ObjC. Joking, of course... but this seems to me the way for trivial apps, given the constraint in a phone-sized OS. I hope to be wrong. Palm has been my first (useful) PDA...
While it'd be way more difficult to write the next office clone in this stack, the vast majority of apps we see on mobile devices are frontends to web data, calculators, or databases of some sort. In those cases, I think these APIs might be just about perfect.
Perhaps they'll provide ways to extend out the javascript APIs (e.g. native code modules) later.
Wonderful! I always dreamed of programming phones in HTML/CSS/JS. This is a great step forward from C/C++/ObjC. Joking, of course... but this seems to me the way for trivial apps, given the constraint in a phone-sized OS. I hope to be wrong. Palm has been my first (useful) PDA...
While it'd be way more difficult to write the next office clone in this stack, the vast majority of apps we see on mobile devices are frontends to web data, calculators, or databases of some sort. In those cases, I think these APIs might be just about perfect. Perhaps they'll provide ways to extend out the javascript APIs (e.g. native code modules) later.
The vast majority of apps we saw on mobile devices, you mean. Then the iPhone and Android-based phones came along. If simple frontends are what the Pre plans to focus on, then Palm is still fighting the last war.
I say this as an iPhone lover, but I think you might be jumping to conclusions prematurely. Granted, the fact that that iPhone already has an awesome product in the market (version 2.0 at that) puts them light years ahead of the product demo Palm has at the trade show. But just because something is miles ahead of current competition doesn't mean your safe forever. The iPhone has some serious weaknesses, including but…
You missed "physical qwerty keyboard". That's my reason not to get a storm or an iphone, just can't type as fast without it. Pre's got the 320x480 res and a keyboard, and thus my interest. The webkit browser might push it past blackberry as well. I had a treo doing touch for few years, but the browser was useless. I wonder how the push email works on the Pre.
I don't consider not having a physical keyboard a weakness. One thing that you can do with the virtual keyboard that you can't do with a physical keyboard is change to the keys to show more useful keys depending on the situation. Then when you don't need the keys at all you can have all the screen to work with. Personally I consider having a physical keyboard to be a drawback.
I hate to sound like an Apple fanboy, but you need more than a pretty phone to dethrone the iPhone. The App store is the best thing since sliced bread. The ever-growing developer enthusiasm for the iPhone is a huge factor too. And if webOS is basically web-based, that means that all of Palm's apps will be available on the iPhone, but none of the iPhone's apps will be available on the Palm Pre. Not exactly a winning p…
The App store is the best thing since sliced bread.
The App store is integrated into iTunes. When I was building white label digital music download shops, iTunes was constantly the thing that haunted our every move.
The seamless iPod -> iTunes integration is a killer feature. While I think it's not an insurmountable barrier I think it's definitely a factor. They don't just have to beat the iPhone they also need to beat parts of iTunes.
I hate to sound like an Apple fanboy, but you need more than a pretty phone to dethrone the iPhone. The App store is the best thing since sliced bread. The ever-growing developer enthusiasm for the iPhone is a huge factor too. And if webOS is basically web-based, that means that all of Palm's apps will be available on the iPhone, but none of the iPhone's apps will be available on the Palm Pre. Not exactly a winning p…
And yet, I still can't figure out what's so good or new about the App Store. Sure, it's a centralized place to get mobile software, but it's not hard at all to find software online for other platforms (Palm, Windows Mobile,etc.). If anything, the App Store with its renowned restrictions, simply limits the number of interesting applications released for the iPhone. It may be good for the developers, I can't argue that point, although I don't understand why it would be.
And about "success." The Razr had enjoyed more "success" than the iPhone by how you must be measuring success. I measure success by how satisfied I am with the phone, even if no one else bought the thing. I'm not saying the Palm Pre will be great, because there's no way to know.