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Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by wredcoll »

wastle wrote: post #506
wredcoll wrote: post #493

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> It's not a left versus right issue, not really. Most of the feminists arguing against gender self-id are on the left. In the sense that the vast majority of all feminists of any kind are on the left? Is there such a thing as a rightwing feminist? JK Rowling? > This isn't a gotcha either. When the horrific outcomes of males being transferred into women's prisons is brought up, it's typically being done to explain wh…

> In the sense that the vast majority of all feminists of any kind are on the left? Is there such a thing as a rightwing feminist? JK Rowling? There are some feminists who reject the left-right divide and don't place themselves anywhere on it, as a response to the male-dominated political system. It's not a very popular view but it exists. JK Rowling isn't one of them, she has left-wing views and describes herself as…

> One might also wonder why policymakers haven't fried these bigger fish that would improve conditions for female prisoners and female athletes, and instead have chosen to introduce gender self-id policy which demonstrably harms women and girls while privileging males.

If you keep repeating this, maybe you'll convince some people who desperately want to believe it.

And I don't really need to wonder why. Because they obviously don't care except when they can invoke "won't somebody think of [the women]" as a convenient excuse to achieve political power.

It's exactly as dishonest and intellectually bankrupt as "advocating for the unborn".

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by andrewflnr »

rockemsockem wrote: post #355
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I'm too lazy to search my comment history, but I wrote a comment on the original post about pg's essay that I did pretty much agree with what pg wrote, and so consequently I agree with most of what you wrote. But that said, I definitely could not ignore the timing of pg's essay, and it felt plain gross to me. It felt like a lazy, convenient pile-on at that moment, even if pg's position had been largely consistent for…

Idk if it's just me, but I voted blue in the last 3 presidential elections and I'm way more pissed about the Democrats than the Republicans right now. They failed the country, so hard, by making poor decisions which made them lose. They did this repeatedly, I think which decisions were the wrong ones is up for debate, but the surest one imo is Joe Biden running again instead of stepping aside and having a real primar…

That makes you "way more pissed" than DJT literally trying to steal the 2020 election? The Dems are bad, but let's keep things in perspective.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by wat10000 »

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I don't have exact numbers but my understanding is/was the US-led wars into Iraq and Afghanistan didn't cause millions of deaths but the insurrections against the governments established afterwards did. Iraqis killing other Iraqis, Afghans killing other Afghans. Bush might have been the one who toppled the existing equilibrium of Saddam Hussein and the Taliban, but most of the suffering was inflicted by the bloody ci…

You break it, you bought it. You get zero points for invading a country for no good reason and saying you’re going to bring freedom and democracy while having no realistic plan for actually doing it.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by spencerflem »

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I didn’t call anyone a Nazi. Trump is not a Nazi. Most of his supporters aren’t either. I did use Nazi Germany as an example of societal views changing to the extreme.

Though Elon did just do a Nazi salute live on stage ;)

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by wastle »

wredcoll wrote: post #511
wastle wrote: post #506

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> In the sense that the vast majority of all feminists of any kind are on the left? Is there such a thing as a rightwing feminist? JK Rowling? There are some feminists who reject the left-right divide and don't place themselves anywhere on it, as a response to the male-dominated political system. It's not a very popular view but it exists. JK Rowling isn't one of them, she has left-wing views and describes herself as…

> One might also wonder why policymakers haven't fried these bigger fish that would improve conditions for female prisoners and female athletes, and instead have chosen to introduce gender self-id policy which demonstrably harms women and girls while privileging males. If you keep repeating this, maybe you'll convince some people who desperately want to believe it. And I don't really need to wonder why. Because they…

> If you keep repeating this, maybe you'll convince some people

I have helped some people understand the full impact of such policy, yes.

In my experience, it depends on whether the person I'm talking to has an interest in the wellbeing of women and girls, and is even slightly open to challenging their current understanding with new information.

> dishonest and intellectually bankrupt

Evidence-based and built upon feminist principles, actually.

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Post by YZF »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #490
YZF wrote: post #425

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Ukraine has also bombed civilians and engages in random/statistical attacks against Russian cities - technically a war crime. We can even stretch out the definition of innocents to include Russians or North Koreans that are forced to fight and have no options. Should Ukraine surrender and let the Russians take over? Clearly the path of least violence against innocents on both sides? All I'm saying is things aren't as…

Can you provide specific evidence that Ukraine is intentionally targeting civilians, and not (for instance) flying a drone that gets affected by GPS jamming and hits a building unintentionally?

If you know the Russians are jamming GPS then what's the difference at this point?

There are some examples here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_in_Russia_during_the_R...

or how about:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/18/russia-says-uk...

Just to be clear I'm not claiming the Russians are the good guys and the Ukranians are the bad guys. I'm just pointing out it's not as simple as someone did something bad in a war. You need to look at the totality of evidence and circumstances, challenge your own viewpoints and listen to people arguing the opposite of what you think, reach some conclusions and always be open to adjust to new evidence. Be aware of who is trying to manipulate you and why, what are the biases of the various sources of information etc. Again not that I think Russia are the good guys but things are never black and white. The west did meddle in Ukraine which in my world view is a good thing but unsurprisingly Putin perceived as aggression/attack on Russia's sphere of influence. To me it boils down to Putin being a force against western values that I'm aligned with.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by YZF »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #494
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Are we solving the Russian-Ukraine war in this thread? ;) - Realistically no amount of weapons the west supplies Ukraine is going to enable them to push the Russians out of Ukraine. - Putin doesn't seem to care about the number of Russians lost in this war. - Direct involvement by western armies could lead to a nuclear escalation. NATO could easily push Russia out of Ukraine in a conventional war. Too big of a gamble…

> Realistically no amount of weapons the west supplies Ukraine is going to enable them to push the Russians out of Ukraine. OK, general. I wasn’t aware of your military credentials. Russia is about 12 months away from completely exhausting all of its Soviet stockpiles of (tens of thousands of) vehicles and artillery, and their war economy is already unable to sustain production at replacement rates. On the contrary,…

Source? I thought it was the west that couldn't ramp up and is running out of stockpiles. I'll admit I'm an armchair general but I did serve so I have at least some minimal idea of what war looks like.

EDIT: Also not clear how long the US is going to keep supporting Ukraine now that Trump is in power so that's another factor.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by [deleted] »

hooverd wrote: post #392
axiomo wrote: post #248

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In my social and professional circles I personally know several individuals who have a trans identity. Getting to know them a bit was actually what shattered the gender identity illusion for me. If you consider the issue as a whole from a women's rights perspective, it should hopefully be less baffling.

why? what did these trans people do to you? is it just disgust?

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