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Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

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Re: Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

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post #62

How can a European company sue a European company in ... Texas? If I were the judge I'd kick it out of court on shear lunacy.

That's why they are filing in east Texas, it's a jurisdiction that is friendly to patent trolls. Lunacy is the business model.

Re: Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

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post #71

This is pretty fucked up. So now anyone in the world can expect to be sued in the US on base of US software patents? How do you release anything in a situation like this. Then there is the burden of going to a court in Texas? How in the fuck they expect that a Swedish company hires lawyers in Texas? Just how much would that cost? Also this is going to beyond any sanity. Practically you have to stick to some common "p…

Is it possible to prohibit the use of your products in that part of Texas to avoid exposure?

Re: Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

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post #18

This is hilarious. Mojang is on not subject of US laws, US software patents can not be enforced either. So Mojng can totally ignore that case.

Wrong. If Mojang sells products or services into the US market, which they do, then they are subject to those laws.

The presence of "Minecraft" on the US XBox Live store is just one example.

Re: Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

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post #72

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Because the decision has flip-flopped a few times, but at the moment Microsoft has settled. ( http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-05/microsoft-settles-f... ) MS has lawyers, and money, and time, and thus for them to lose is concerning. (Not saying anything about the applicability of this patent to Mojang.)

Defending a patent suit costs millions. Settling may simply have been cheaper, while still giving a big payday to the troll.

$8 a copy of Minecraft sounds like a fair licensing price. How about that? Okay, thanks!

Re: Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

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post #97
post #88

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Not American, but can't you be jailed for contempt of court? http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jailed-for--280--the-return-of... http://farquharlaw.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/debtors-prison-e...

Not paying a judgement against you is not contempt of court. In the Yahoo Article, the woman arrested failed to show up to multiple court hearings, despite receive notice at the proper address. The fact that the court hearings related to a debt was incidental. Blame shoddy journalism. The second one, is a blog post, which actually talks about something entirely different from a debtor's prison. It refers to a "debtor…

Plenty of Judges treat not paying a judgement against you as contempt of court. Even though it is not supposed to happen, it often does.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/opinion/06mon4.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/14/opinion/return-of-debtors-...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870439650457620...

Debtor's prison is alive and well in America.

Re: Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

#117
post #27

Uniloc is Australian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric_Richardson and it won more than $300m from MS.

I found it confusing that he is portrayed as a "generous supporter of the innovation, invention and startup ecosystems" in Australia and has been invited to speak at startup conference in sydney. http://sydstart.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/ric-richardson-inve...

Re: Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

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post #98

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Jurisdiction for the lawsuit arises from (1) past contacts with the U.S. at the time of the claim from which the lawsuit arises or (2) current contacts with the U.S. For example, if your LLC is being sued for...say, slander, that supposedly occurred 6 months ago, and your LLC were conducting business in the U.S. 6 months ago, your LLC would be subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. courts based upon your past contac…

But if I've dissolved my American LLC and sold/transferred all its assets to my new LLC (or LLC equivalent) in $COUNTRY, what can they really do? They can't sue my old LLC, it's nonexistent. They can't sue me, I'm not liable for the activities of my American LLC. They could sue my new LLC, but they'd have to file in $COUNTRY, where the patent (or whatever) laws are more favorable to me. I suppose they could get an in…

It's a good bet that whatever company takes money from your US customers on your behalf has enough ties somewhere in the chain to the US to be forced to drop you as a customer.

Re: Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

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How would that be enforced for a download-only product? Also, there is another famous swedish operation which still hasn't been shut down despite enormous efforts by US firms. edit: ok, any app store downloads probably could be shut down.

Domain seizure?

Or cutting off one's access to credit card processing, though I note that Wikileaks managed to deal with that in the end.

Re: Mojang, makers of Minecraft, sued by patent troll

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How about a more realistic thought (the humor in your post has been noted), how about if when you lose a patent case as the plaintiff, you (or your company) are no longer allowed to file patents in the future, and your existing patents are now invalid.

I could get completely behind that, or at the minimum, the specific patents used in the lawsuit are invalidated.

People being sued for patent infringement often go on the offensive, filing reexamination requests with the USPTO in order to invalidate the patent.

One problem is that the courts, especially those in East Texas, do not care to wait for the reexamination procedures to finish, so you can infringe on a patent later found invalid.

It would be very interesting if Notch got their lawyers to supervise a crowd-sourced search for prior art, though. I hope he does so!

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