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There was a rumor about an optical sensor on the side of a joycon that would turn it into a mouse. Is this out of the equation? This would have been awesome!

Didn't you see the section where joycons appear to slide over a table? If anything, the video confirms the rumor

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Agree. PlayStation 1...5 has worked well for Sony. XBOX is a mess (I am an XBOX guy myself).

The problem with Xbox naming is that names are both inconsistent and too similar to each other. Aside from the Wii/Wii U debacle, Nintendo console names haven't been consistent, but they have been distinct. It's easy to remember that the GameCube and the Wii aren't the same thing. Xbox, though, it's just the word Xbox followed by arbitrary numbers, maybe with the letter S or X thrown in for fun. I have no idea why th…

They were screwed from the start...

The Xbox came out when the PS2 did. When it came time for the next generation, Sony went with the obvious PS3. Microsoft of course couldn't compete with an "Xbox 2" vs a "PS3", and they couldn't skip right to "Xbox 3", so they called it the "Xbox 360", which was frankly genius because it had the 3 there anyway and put it on the same level in consumers' eyes.

But after that it all fell apart -- they had no good options. They still couldn't jump to "Xbox 4". Maybe "720" would have worked. Someone decided to have a clean break and restart at "One" but of course that fell apart immediately at "Two". So another clean break to "Series..". And by that point it's so screwy they've lost any chance of fixing it...

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Arg, they make the screen look absolutely huge with that large front glass panel during most of the video and I was thinking to myself, nice! But then at the end they actually show how large the bezels are underneath the glass and it is quite disappointing. Someday we'll have modern smartphone like mini-bezels (a few mm at most) in our handheld gaming consoles, but I guess not yet.

Microbezels are aesthetically great but practically horrible. Having some practical space to grab onto wins at the end of the day, we presumably use these things instead of having one sit looking happy on a bookshelf.

At the same time, a larger handheld to fit those big bezels is unfortunate because we don't have a proper replacement for the gameboy/ds line.

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Screen estate all to the edge of the device can be annoying too, just a wrinkle on your clothes will then cover a bit of the screen.

Play with no clothes on, problem solved.

Yes, because our chiseled bellies don’t get in the way.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Arg, they make the screen look absolutely huge with that large front glass panel during most of the video and I was thinking to myself, nice! But then at the end they actually show how large the bezels are underneath the glass and it is quite disappointing. Someday we'll have modern smartphone like mini-bezels (a few mm at most) in our handheld gaming consoles, but I guess not yet.

Screen estate all to the edge of the device can be annoying too, just a wrinkle on your clothes will then cover a bit of the screen.

It's not a tablet. It has physical controllers. You don't use a switch by grabbing the screen.

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> But it’s still a little shocking to see a company lean so far into the theme of “we made incremental improvements to this thing we released 8 years ago.” It's certainly more 'shocking' to see Nintendo do it than, say, Microsoft or Sony. But Nintendo hasn't always introduced huge new changes with a console bump — NES->SNES wasn't particularly revolutionary, and there were certainly no gimmicks there. I think it's a…

NES->SNES didn’t do much with the form factor or the controls, but technologically it was an enormous leap. That’s the sort of thing that just can’t happen anymore, since video game technology is pretty much maxed out. You can always make things a little bit prettier, or have a little better framerate, but nothing too interesting. I suppose VR/AR is the one area where something big could still happen. The current sta…

VR and, at some point, 3D.

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It seems like the days of revolutionary consumer electronics are over. This looks nice, for sure. But it’s really more of the same. Not surprising. It does surprise me that there’s such emphasis on it, though. There’s the name, of course, and then the entire video is based around “it’s the same thing but a little better.” Game console updates used to be big deals. The SNES was a revolution. PS2 was huge. Now… PS5? Wh…

> PS2 was huge PS2 was literally just an iteration on the PS1. More powerful console, DVD instead of CD, and that was it. Nothing really new there. Hell, the Switch 2 is more innovative than the PS2 was in terms of iteration on a previous console.

“More powerful” was enough to be a step change at the time. You’d get huge improvements in image quality, realism, and immersion.

Now, compare a new game with one from ten years ago. The new one looks a little better. Not much.

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A little sad about the lack of a rail compatible with charging existing controllers. Hopefully it's compatible with current gen controllers anyway given how expensive they are. One of my favorite parts about the Xbox Series generation of consoles is that it's fully compatible with the previous Xbox One controllers. It would be amazing if they could get their multi-gen multi-console save-sync to work nearly as well as…

The rumour has it the older joycons can still be used wirelessly, just not physically connected.

So how are you going to charge them then? Have the old Switch 1 lying around as a charging station?

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Microbezels are aesthetically great but practically horrible. Having some practical space to grab onto wins at the end of the day, we presumably use these things instead of having one sit looking happy on a bookshelf.

> Having some practical space to grab onto wins at the end of the day, I guess I hold onto the controller parts on the sides, not the center component. It isn't a tablet.

It's a portable device, at some point or another I'm going to handle it without the side controllers. Having some place to grab the thing is basic ergonomics, much less something designed with kids in mind.

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How do Switch users feel about the joycons? I'm not a gamer, but the original Switch joycons always struck me as overly complicated and expensive. It should be cheaper to manufacture and sell Switches with the controllers attached. Indeed, this is what they did with the Switch Lite. For games that take advantage of joycon functionality, Nintendo could have sold something like an updated Switch version of the Wiimote…

They have quality issues with stick drift, and the "single joycon as controller" setup is clearly designed for child-sized hands, but it's definitely an advantage to be able to play the system handheld but also have minimal extra to pack (just the rails widget) if I want to put it on a train table on the kickstand and the use the controllers more ergonomically. And I mean, if you have kids, being able to double your…

I was traveling through Asia with the original Switch and got a cute girl who didn't speak English to play Mario Kart with me on the ferry.

The detachable controllers were pretty magical, modulo the reliability problems.

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