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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bsimpson »

jjice wrote: post #121
darkwizard42 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Wii was on the of the best selling consoles of all time? I believe only surpassed by the PS2. Is the gimmicky a personal opinion or something you believe didn’t resonate with customers?

"Gimmicky" in the sense that they used movement controls and that's non-standard in the industry and went away mostly afterwards. I'm considering anything that isn't a traditional stationary control (keyboard + mouse or controller) as "gimmicky" or out of the ordinary. In terms of sales, you're absolutely right - the Wii crushed it. I'd be curious to know about usage and software sales though. Maybe I'm wrong (very p…

The Wiimotes were a clear influence on the Joy-Cons.

Nintendo still uses motion controls; they just made them portable and more resilient with gyros instead of IR.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Dalewyn »

bhouston wrote: post #143

Arg, they make the screen look absolutely huge with that large front glass panel during most of the video and I was thinking to myself, nice! But then at the end they actually show how large the bezels are underneath the glass and it is quite disappointing. Someday we'll have modern smartphone like mini-bezels (a few mm at most) in our handheld gaming consoles, but I guess not yet.

Microbezels are aesthetically great but practically horrible.

Having some practical space to grab onto wins at the end of the day, we presumably use these things instead of having one sit looking happy on a bookshelf.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by surgical_fire »

bsimpson wrote: post #180
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But it’s still a little shocking to see a company lean so far into the theme of “we made incremental improvements to this thing we released 8 years ago.” It's certainly more 'shocking' to see Nintendo do it than, say, Microsoft or Sony. But Nintendo hasn't always introduced huge new changes with a console bump — NES->SNES wasn't particularly revolutionary, and there were certainly no gimmicks there. I think it's a…

The Super Nintendo had totally new controllers and was top-loading. The UX was substantially different than the original Nintendo's VCR-style design.

The Famicom was top loading, too.

NES was only side loading because in the US Nintendo was trying to distance itself from the consoles that came before.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by wat10000 »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #128
wat10000 wrote: post #118

It seems like the days of revolutionary consumer electronics are over. This looks nice, for sure. But it’s really more of the same. Not surprising. It does surprise me that there’s such emphasis on it, though. There’s the name, of course, and then the entire video is based around “it’s the same thing but a little better.” Game console updates used to be big deals. The SNES was a revolution. PS2 was huge. Now… PS5? Wh…

> But it’s still a little shocking to see a company lean so far into the theme of “we made incremental improvements to this thing we released 8 years ago.” It's certainly more 'shocking' to see Nintendo do it than, say, Microsoft or Sony. But Nintendo hasn't always introduced huge new changes with a console bump — NES->SNES wasn't particularly revolutionary, and there were certainly no gimmicks there. I think it's a…

NES->SNES didn’t do much with the form factor or the controls, but technologically it was an enormous leap. That’s the sort of thing that just can’t happen anymore, since video game technology is pretty much maxed out. You can always make things a little bit prettier, or have a little better framerate, but nothing too interesting.

I suppose VR/AR is the one area where something big could still happen. The current state of the art there is far from the “mostly limited by the size of your wall” stage.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by anal_reactor »

1. Looks boring. I want my washing machine to look boring, not my fun entertainment device.

2. It's literally the same thing they released 8 years ago, except the electronics are new. In 8 years they did zero creative progress. "People don't want cars, they want faster horses".

3. Switch was already huge, this thing will be giant, so it will be portable as in "portable fridge".

This will probably sell well because Switch sold well and the brand is strong, but honestly, I don't see any reason to buy this thing. They're basically reinventing a gaming laptop, except with Nintendo first-party games.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by jitl »

eloisant wrote: post #169
richrichardsson wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you believe the leakers [1]: Full specs: CPU: Arm Cortex-A78C 8 cores Unknown L1/L2/L3 cache sizes GPU: Nvidia T239 Ampere 1 Graphics Processing Cluster (GPC) 12 Streaming Multiprocessors (SM) 1534 CUDA cores 6 Texture Processing Clusters (TPC) 48 Gen 3 Tensor cores 2 RTX ray-tracing cores RAM: 12 GB LPDDR5 Handheld Mode: CPU: 998.4 MHz GPU: 561 MHz (~1.72 TFLOPS) Memory Frequency: 4266 MHz Memory Bandwidth: 68.25…

How would that compare to other consoles, like the PS4/PS4 Pro?

pc vs cell phone

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

duxup wrote: post #8

I was pretty skeptical about the original Switch but bought it on a whim after being laid off. It quickly became one of my favorite gaming consoles. The ability to play anywhere didn’t seem like a big deal until I could do it. I have zero interest in being tied to a single spot like the traditional console experience now.

The Switch is genuinely one of the last pieces of hardware I was really excited about, and I can't say that about much anymore. It's extremely well put together, I've repaired mine a number of times with no issues (honestly opening anything made in Japan is a joy, the engineering is so good) and the specs leave a lot to be desired, which is unfortunate, but at the same time, you wouldn't know it while using it. The XBox is such a curmudgeonly slow experience to use, everything in the menus takes forever to load, the dash jerks and lags, and it's just like... this machine can run Halo Infinite, why does it struggle so damn hard with just... boxes and jpegs?

The Switch has a similar issue occasionally in the store application, but outside of that, settings are snappy, updates are practically instant, it turns on and off so quickly. It's what consoles are supposed to be.

And honestly in this same vein, the PS5 is also bloody impressive, but that impressiveness came with an impressive price too. The Switch costing as little as it did and still holding it's own is so cool.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bhouston »

Dalewyn wrote: post #192
bhouston wrote: post #143

Arg, they make the screen look absolutely huge with that large front glass panel during most of the video and I was thinking to myself, nice! But then at the end they actually show how large the bezels are underneath the glass and it is quite disappointing. Someday we'll have modern smartphone like mini-bezels (a few mm at most) in our handheld gaming consoles, but I guess not yet.

Microbezels are aesthetically great but practically horrible. Having some practical space to grab onto wins at the end of the day, we presumably use these things instead of having one sit looking happy on a bookshelf.

> Having some practical space to grab onto wins at the end of the day,

I guess I hold onto the controller parts on the sides, not the center component. It isn't a tablet.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

actionfromafar wrote: post #167
bhouston wrote: post #143

Arg, they make the screen look absolutely huge with that large front glass panel during most of the video and I was thinking to myself, nice! But then at the end they actually show how large the bezels are underneath the glass and it is quite disappointing. Someday we'll have modern smartphone like mini-bezels (a few mm at most) in our handheld gaming consoles, but I guess not yet.

Screen estate all to the edge of the device can be annoying too, just a wrinkle on your clothes will then cover a bit of the screen.

Play with no clothes on, problem solved.
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