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Re: Home Loss File System

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post #70

But why does this not exist for those who already lost their homes years ago and are living on the streets? A bunch of rich home owners have their houses burned down it's an emergency. Tens of thousands of homeless people live on the streets and nobody bats an eye. Just saying.

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Re: Home Loss File System

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I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

This should be a lot of things, but this is a spreadsheet that was done probably by an end users, and thus is a superior solution to all the potential options that were not done.

There are a lot of sheets on this worksheet that are intended to be edited. Sometimes we forget that spreadsheets are popular because they are useful for the people who use them. They have an incredibly low barrier of adoption, are intuitive and pratical for editing, and frankly, for the average users, they do tables far better than HTML.

Why the fucking web has to be the measure of all things and everything needs to be hypertext? Why the web has to be everything and absorb all other applications?

There must be a reason why Visical was the killer app that really popularized the home computer for non-nerds, followed by 1-2-3 and why almost 40 years laters excel is still one of the most used tools.

Yeah, not everybody in the world is a developer, not everybody has to think like us, and frankly, sometimes we are pretty limited in our way of thinking, and way less creative than our users.

Re: Home Loss File System

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Refusal to learn != can't

Learning is the last thing they want to do in a situation like “I want to update a document about losing homes”, and among the end of the to do list in general. One can argue as much as they want how it’s people’s fault, but the next catastrophe will create more google sheets and whatsapp groups and zero wikis and forum threads. I believe that developers could bridge this gap easily, if they weren’t in the denial abo…

I'm speaking more broadly, not this specific instance.

In either case, justifying unwillingness to learn is a race to the bottom. I don't want every app to be made targeted at the lowest common denominator -- nor do I think it is healthy for society -- in terms of digital literacy. That's a race to the bottom to every app being like Tiktok.

Remember, that Gen Z doesn't understand what a directory or a file is because they grew up on spoon-feeding mobile apps, and this is causing problems for them when they enter the workplace.

This type of thought process of making everything as streamlined as possible is why that happens.

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I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

strange comment - this should be a website that would presumably be hosting, where exactly? the average person would not be able to make something even close to this sheet. where are they going to host it? do they have a domain? certs? do they even know how to write html? css? during a spiky event such as a wildfire, will their website even stay up?

I don't think it's strange at all.

Wouldn't this be a near perfect use-case for AI generated websites?

Re: Home Loss File System

#75
post #60

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

The same thing happened with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. In Berlin, the entire effort to support refugees was coordinated on WhatsApp and Telegram, backed by Google Docs. It still did a marvelous job until the authorities could catch up and prepare resources. Even then the unofficial resources were far better. I run an information website for a living. There is nothing I could have done that would have beat the…

Spreadsheet software and in this case specifically google docs are great tools for getting something off the ground fast; often it's good enough that no replacement needs to be written. I'm reminded of a contract some of my colleagues had at some point where a company's core business was all in a shared excel sheet, their job was to replace it with a proper application; iirc it took like 2-3 years to get it finished, at significant cost / investment. Of course, the excel sheet was no longer fit for purpose and not a good long term strategy to have.

Re: Home Loss File System

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post #58

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

It should be theoretically possible for Google to display a public Google doc as a search result. Google doesn't show good search results because they do not want to at this point.

Public spreadsheets (and forms) simply aren't indexed by Google; I'm sure there's a reason somewhere but I haven't been able to find it.

Re: Home Loss File System

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I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

I guess author does not have much resources. It is probably single person, with no government backing. There is not even spanish translation!

In 2015 refugee crisis, website had much better organization. It had nice graphic and translation to 5 languages. It had upto date information about police locations, border weaknesses, and how to use free trains (avoid ticket checks). Volunteers were even giving away free phones with SIM data plans, bolt cutters, single use tents...

Re: Home Loss File System

#78

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

And how do those people enter their information? Where is it stored?

Re: Home Loss File System

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This is great, I can just fill it out, and save a copy somewhere in google drive. Also I'd keep a printed hard copy of it and then save it in (fireproof) safe or a bug-out bag for escaping from disaster.

Re: Home Loss File System

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that the biggest advantage of the spreadsheet is that it can be modified easily, even democratically and also on the go. No website offers that kind of ease of use for _adding_ information

Wikipedia is literally a website that does this and has existed for >2 decades at this point.

Yes, let me just go pop my personal contents and insurance details on wikipedia as myself and my family track, update and modify the structure of the page.
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