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Re: Home Loss File System

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Post by jijikuya »

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions.

I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of the World Wide Web as we know it.

This should be a website. This should be at the top of search results. This should be viewable on mobile devices and desktops. And yet, it's being shared through a proprietary office suite service in the form of a spreadsheet that can't be quickly referenced or copied without loading an entire webapp.

If you're one of the many people who wonder why Google stopped being useful, if you're one of the many people who think it's getting harder to find stuff online, here's your answer as to why. All the good, salient, pertinent, well-formed information that you want to find, is being shared like this.

This is what's easiest for people, and that's at odds with how we find content these days. This comment came out kind of half-baked, but I think it's interesting to think about, and it's not a viewpoint I see here often.

Re: Home Loss File System

#52

Post by kzalesak »

jijikuya wrote: post #51

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

I think that the biggest advantage of the spreadsheet is that it can be modified easily, even democratically and also on the go. No website offers that kind of ease of use for _adding_ information

Re: Home Loss File System

#53

Post by desdenova »

xp84 wrote: post #38
ziml77 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really sounded to me like some grim project where you store your data by destroying houses!

In version two, instead of storing a 1 as a destroyed house, we’ll destroy them to varying degrees and then read that single house as multiple bits. Like TLC SSDs

What if we just destroy it enough so that nobody would want to live there, but there may or may not be a homeless person living there now?

Now we have quantum storage.

Re: Home Loss File System

#54

Post by acidburnNSA »

kzalesak wrote: post #52
jijikuya wrote: post #51

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

I think that the biggest advantage of the spreadsheet is that it can be modified easily, even democratically and also on the go. No website offers that kind of ease of use for _adding_ information

You may be right, but it's still an indictment of the web. After all, the first browser was an HTML editor as well as viewer.

Re: Home Loss File System

#55

Post by teddyh »

kzalesak wrote: post #52
jijikuya wrote: post #51

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

I think that the biggest advantage of the spreadsheet is that it can be modified easily, even democratically and also on the go. No website offers that kind of ease of use for _adding_ information

Have you heard of Wikis?

Re: Home Loss File System

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Post by lazide »

jijikuya wrote: post #51

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

How is a Google App being useful representative of how Google stopped being useful?

Re: Home Loss File System

#57

Post by lazide »

Hackbraten wrote: post #50
ginko wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Relatively quick to write but expensive to reset the blocks.

Version 2 works around that limitation using the divorce and re-marry technique.

It requires super sensitive sensors through. The prior rev could be read from orbit. (/s)

Re: Home Loss File System

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Post by ksynwa »

jijikuya wrote: post #51

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

It should be theoretically possible for Google to display a public Google doc as a search result. Google doesn't show good search results because they do not want to at this point.

Re: Home Loss File System

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Post by _Algernon_ »

kzalesak wrote: post #52
jijikuya wrote: post #51

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

I think that the biggest advantage of the spreadsheet is that it can be modified easily, even democratically and also on the go. No website offers that kind of ease of use for _adding_ information

Wikipedia is literally a website that does this and has existed for >2 decades at this point.

Re: Home Loss File System

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Post by nicbou »

jijikuya wrote: post #51

I'm on the other side of the planet so it's not my place to comment on the content of any of this. It seems to look like a good resource clearly made with the best of intentions. I understand the people/person behind this wants to quickly and easily impart information, so the best format for the job is whichever one they can distribute info in as quickly as possible -- but I also see this as a sort of indictment of t…

The same thing happened with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. In Berlin, the entire effort to support refugees was coordinated on WhatsApp and Telegram, backed by Google Docs. It still did a marvelous job until the authorities could catch up and prepare resources. Even then the unofficial resources were far better.

I run an information website for a living. There is nothing I could have done that would have beat the speed and flexibility of that response. My own response was just to give those resources more visibility.

My takeaway was somewhat opposite to yours: it's marvelous that we can do so much, so fast, for free, with minimal computer skills. We should aim to make the independent web this easy.

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