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Re: Nobody cares

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Post by spencerflem »

maximinus_thrax wrote: post #25

What a worthless rant. There are big problems and there are small problems and/or inconveniences. People do care, when they have a budget for caring. Unfortunately the modern world depletes that budget with the day-to-day life. I live close to where the author does and trust me, the city has way bigger problems to deal with than the nitpicky bullshit OP is calling out. In the suburb I live in, we have an app where th…

I agree the authors examples were all nitpicky and omg Elon was the worst example you could have picked.

But it does touch on a sort of apathy and nihilism that I can feel myself falling towards.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by zoogeny »

You know who really cares? The Karen in the HOA who relentlessly hounds the board because one of the units in the complex has the wrong color paint on their door. Be careful what you wish for, or the grass is always greener.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by spencerflem »

p1necone wrote: post #26
astroalex wrote: post #16

> Have been to the DMV? It sucked? There is a human being whose job it is to be in charge of the DMV. They do not care that it sucks. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've actually never had a bad experience at the DMV here in Seattle. The staff have been efficient, fast, and friendly every time.

The idea that the DMV is a particularly awful experience does seem like something that would be especially susceptible to selection bias. Why would anyone ever announce "I went to the DMV today and it was fine"?

My experience has been that it sucks but not as bad as private customer service.

Getting a refund from UHaul was fifteen hours of pulling teeth. DMV was a 45 minute wait.

Worse in Texas where they dont fund it ofc.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by Shank »

> In Japan, you get the impression that everyone takes their job and role in society seriously. The median Japanese 7-11 clerk takes their job more seriously than the median US city bureaucrat.

My favorite example of this is how, if you visit 7-11 in Japan and an employee isn’t busy, or is busy but with an unimportant task, they will jump to open a cash register and check people out the second a queue forms. They will move as quickly as possible to clear the queue of people, seemingly aware that everyone has some place to be that isn’t a checkout line. It’s wonderful.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by arisbe__ »

Its worse than that. There is a logic to society, growth and scaling that involves accumulating obligations. This is like a gravity or a gang hivemind that due to scale inverts the value of bettering to the value of self-preservation of a corrupt society theatre. They dont want improvement but containment i.e. inhibition of creative destruction. What really gets me here is just how much people normalize lying.

When you know this (if you arent obligation enslaved) you can then just work orthogonally to the system to make something way better. In fact it kind of breaks reality for you.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by MattGaiser »

zoogeny wrote: post #43

You know who really cares? The Karen in the HOA who relentlessly hounds the board because one of the units in the complex has the wrong color paint on their door. Be careful what you wish for, or the grass is always greener.

You bring up an important adjacent point. OP believes bikers and non-drivers are substantial stakeholders, but ignores that the tax complainers and drivers may prefer the world that way. And they do hound council.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by Over2Chars »

imgabe wrote: post #38

Man, I've been the engineer in situations like that bike lane and believe me, we care. Usually the engineers care. 99% of the time the contractor had some "value engineering" suggestions that the client was all too happy to take because it saved them a little money up front. As the engineer you can try to explain that it will be shitty, but they ... don't care.

A well known CEO noted that in a failing organization he was trying to devise a turn around plan for that everyone in the organization invariably blamed... the other teams! Not a one said "our team is responsible for our failure".

The engineers blamed product, the product people blamed sales, etc.

He said he provided this suggestion, "You are of course right (it's the other groups fault, and it might have been so), but what can you do, in your group, as part of a solution we all work towards to help fix this?"

So yeah, it is the other guys fault. But what you can you do to help fix it?

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by dijksterhuis »

EGreg wrote: post #7
satvikpendem wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Downvoted because this is off topic and should be on a proper Show HN, not in a random thread.

I think it's on topic as it shows exactly what OP was talking about ( Instead they get negative feedback ) is not confined to workplaces, but is prevalent right here, too. "No one cares" is almost correct. Some people will care, but most will downvote you and criticize you. Oh by the way ... I tried doing a "Show HN" with it. It just got buried after getting 1 like. If you post something that people take a while to e…

you did a Show HN and it sounds like it didn’t work out. that sucks to hear pal.

it might be worth taking some time to reflect on what your part in that was and what you might do differently next time.

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