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Which is why strongly favoring products that are already real open source is the best business decision.
Is there an 'open source Slack' type thing anywhere? This is the closest I've found- https://mattermost.com/
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Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there an 'open source Slack' type thing anywhere? This is the closest I've found- https://mattermost.com/
Zulip is another one, mentioned in a sibling comment. Matrix/Element is used by some companies. Nextcloud Chat exists, but I don't know much about it.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zulip is another one, mentioned in a sibling comment. Matrix/Element is used by some companies. Nextcloud Chat exists, but I don't know much about it.
I think the Nextcloud offering is called "Nextcloud Talk", for anyone wanting to check that out.
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The difference here is more important than that.
I'm sure the people who insist on the proper usage of the term "champagne" claim their linguistic crusade is important too!
Ok, your birthday party and weeding are excluded.
If you are in a dinner at home foe two, is it a party?
Funerals?
Let's buy a real champagne instead.
[1] It has a microphone and a camera and GPS and use AI to detect parties. The data is send to the servers and stored securetely.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which is why strongly favoring products that are already real open source is the best business decision.
Is there an 'open source Slack' type thing anywhere? This is the closest I've found- https://mattermost.com/
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
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It is a 100% not open-source. It won't be maintained besides pull-requests AND if another company or individual develops this further, it can not be used commercially by anybody else but the company who released this. It this fair? Open source goes both ways.
They have given us a gift with the code being availabile as it is. It would be fair for them to have released nothing. I do think its a shame that it can't legally be combined with GPL'd free software
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Even that's a minefield, a non-profit that sells things (like a sports club selling merch) is still potentially engaging in commercial activity.
Good point. I suppose many people, like me, would not think about that.. but.. IANAL but at least in Germany I think there's often some correlation of "not profit-oriented" and "no commercial purpose" - I mean, every time you let someone pay for membership in your club, it can be seen as commercial, but mostly not.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#98Campsite is not open source. From the LICENSE file on the repo [0]: > Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International [0] https://github.com/campsite/campsite/blob/dae5db8611e8adc057...
Honestly, I find this whole OSI open-source definition annoying. I'm pretty sure if this went to court a judge would say it's legally is open source because the source code is open. The fact, FOSS folk want to add a bunch of requirements to open source to make it harder for commercial software just stinks and that is really what it is. "You can't claim you're open source because you limit competitors using your code…
Talk to some lawyers. I'm sure you could bring the first lawsuit to try to get a judge to rule that everyone should agree with you on what "open source" means.
Good luck with that.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#99That being said, for educational purposes, making the code publicly available is a nice gesture and I see a lot of values. I wish more companies would do that so the industry as a whole learn from the talents of others - because yes, these people are incredibly talented.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#100Campsite is not open source. From the LICENSE file on the repo [0]: > Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International [0] https://github.com/campsite/campsite/blob/dae5db8611e8adc057...
If there's a better (more accurate and neutral) title, we can change it again.