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In the belly of the MrBeast

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Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by jasonmarks_ »

kube-system wrote: post #239
jasonmarks_ wrote: post #169

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I agree the kids will take it at face value all the more reason to not tolerate massive deception. What if his teaching them fraudulent representation pays. All pro athletes cheat a little bit at the highest levels but exceptional cheating is never tolerated.

I don't understand what you're saying. Kids don't watch the channel because it has a high number of views. And what "massive deception" are you referring to?

You are using deflection here (deceitful). Without a list of all viewer ip's it's hard to identify where his click contractor is. Just knowing what countries his viewers are from would be sufficient.

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by snowfarthing »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #219
prpl wrote: post #130

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You see this a lot in strange ways these days. Rage bait, feigned ignorance, and things like that. It’s anti-quality and it’s just as effective (if not more) than quality content.

What was the Twitter joke. 'If I want an answer to a programming question, I post the question, and then an incorrect response from a different account.' No ones posting to help, but a lot will post to smugly correct the wrong answer.

I'm not entirely sure if smugness is the entire reason for doing it -- I suspect that for many of us (particularly autistics like me) there's a certain amount "But someone's wrong on the internet!" syndrome going on.

Some of us just can't work up the energy to answer a question, but if we see something wrong, it doesn't sit well with us, and we have to correct it.

And yes, sometimes when I see a question I can answer, it gives me the energy to answer it ... but not always ...

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by megaman821 »

flir wrote: post #233
llamaimperative wrote: post #100

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BoingBoing is still very much made in Doctorow's image. Michael Moore is an earlier example. Not suggesting equivalence, in fact I would be really interested to hear theories as to why right-wing polemicists are so much more popular (and numerous) than left-wing polemicists. On the face of it, there are a lot of left-wing things to be justifiably outraged about (especially right now). So why isn't left-wing outrage r…

I think most Americans don't want to be morally lectured. Today's far-left is most similar to the religious right of decades ago. Outside their fervent base, everyone else is annoyed by them.

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by OJFord »

NAHWheatCracker wrote: post #215
OJFord wrote: post #116

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> I added uBlock filters so the home page is empty and recommended videos aren't shown. I only ever go to subscriptions now. There's a setting to turn it off, no need for uBlock filters for that

It's the hammer I have and it works on those nails, hah.

Fair enough, just FYI. I couldn't be bothered to set that up on mobile personally; nice thing about the account setting is it will apply everywhere then (assuming logged in).

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by zten »

ryandrake wrote: post #150
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #96

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Funny, I have the opposite experience. I used to get relevant videos to what I was watching. If I'm watching a Phish video, it would recommend other Phish videos. These days, if I'm watching a Phish video I will literally, as in literally literally, get a Candace Owens video recommendation. I have literally never clicked on one of her videos ever. I don't watch political content on youtube at all, and if I did I am v…

It's so weird and obvious that shenanigans are going on in the recommendation algorithm. I'll watch a Video Game Streamer, and in the sidebar, the top ten recommended related videos are: - Same streamer, different video - Different streamer - Far right pundit blasts immigration - Video game streamer - Video game streamer - Video game review - Same streamer, similar content - Ben Shapiro OWNS Liberals with FACTS - Vid…

There are a lot of video game players who are tooting the "DEI is ruining games" horn, with streamers amplifying this message. You could agree with that thesis without being conservative but even researching it will pull your YouTube recommendations in that direction; it seems to align well with conservative values.

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by refulgentis »

cool_dude85 wrote: post #222
lalalandland wrote: post #198

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The creators publication frequency is also an important factor. If you don't put out content at least once per week you fall off the recommended and lose a lot of views. Once your content is shallow, simple and without reflection, you are trapped in a hamster wheel of click bait vapidness.

Is this accurate in all cases? Isn't Jenny Nicholson one of the bigger YouTubers, with videos coming out maybe once or twice a year?

Well, no:

On the "not even wrong" front, in the Pauli sense of the phrase: she's a relatively minor success, you'll find 20 police bodycam video accounts created in the last year that get 10x views.

There is a pattern with well-known creators that are more video-essay than intensifying whirlpoolers or whatever, where they keep YouTube productions to a handful of high-quality videos a year, and monetize via Patreon with less well-polished videos published much more frequently.

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by DonHopkins »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #241
llamaimperative wrote: post #238

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it's your data, not mine. I just did the math on it.

Your data is not so much math, but more a tangled macramé of logical gymnastics, pretzel logic, twisted topology, knot theory, and Marlinespike Seamanship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot_theory

https://corpslakes.erdc.dren.mil/employees/motorboat/pdfs/Ma...

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by refulgentis »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #219
prpl wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You see this a lot in strange ways these days. Rage bait, feigned ignorance, and things like that. It’s anti-quality and it’s just as effective (if not more) than quality content.

What was the Twitter joke. 'If I want an answer to a programming question, I post the question, and then an incorrect response from a different account.' No ones posting to help, but a lot will post to smugly correct the wrong answer.

old IRC joke

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by snowfarthing »

1659447091 wrote: post #252
lupusreal wrote: post #196

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Reagan apparently hated reading and would often skip written briefs given to him by, for instance, the CIA. Then somebody got the idea to put those briefs in the form of a television news style video made just for Reagan. Some of them are on youtube now. They have the tone of spoonfeeding a midwit.

Trump was/is the same. At one point they tried powerpoint like presentations with graphics. I don't know about Reagan, but from my personal experience with dyslexia (though I love to read--and dislike videos--even as it takes forever), I think Trump may be dyslexic. I would not be surprised if Reagan were too. I only wish it was more public (if true). It would help eliminate the stigma and eliminate most of the cheap…

Having learned in the last year that I'm autistic, and having learned a lot just about what that means, I cannot help but wonder to what degree Reagan and Trump may be dyslexia and not even know it.

It's very easy to realize you're "different" from other people, but can't place your finger on it, yet manage to make up for the differences in odd and creative ways!

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Post by harrall »

RajT88 wrote: post #77
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #47

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There is a straight line through 70s Falwell, 90s Limbaugh, tea party, to MAGA. All fueled by a self-reinforcing rage machine.

Left leaning folks are swept up in rage machines too. Leaf through the BoingBoing BBS sometime to get a sense for it.

I find the right goes into rage machines and sees their way of life changing and double down on keeping things the way they have been.

I find the left goes into anger machines and ends up suggesting overzealous steps for necessary changes that take many people aback.

But that’s not new. What’s not new is that now we have social media and mainstream media that wants to fan the flames by giving voices to the most extreme.

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