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In the belly of the MrBeast

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Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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so the data shows that the left's approval of the murder is 37% higher on the low end up to a max of 5x higher (depending on how the confidence intervals map to reality). And that that the left is anywhere from 20% to 3x more likely to be undecided about the morality of an assassination.

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it's your data, not mine. I just did the math on it.

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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I'm interested in how many people here on HN watch Mr Beast - I've never watched any of his videos ever, and I spend far too much time on YT.

I watch it all of the time but only because of my daughter. I definitely wouldn't watch them on my own but it's tolerable.

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BoingBoing is still very much made in Doctorow's image. Michael Moore is an earlier example. Not suggesting equivalence, in fact I would be really interested to hear theories as to why right-wing polemicists are so much more popular (and numerous) than left-wing polemicists. On the face of it, there are a lot of left-wing things to be justifiably outraged about (especially right now). So why isn't left-wing outrage r…

See these are interesting questions. I don't have great answers. IQ gap between the sides?

Me either. I think that's possibly a self-serving guess, to be honest. But how would we test it?

On the comedians question: some people think it's because it's easier to be funny when kicking up than kicking down.

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There is a straight line through 70s Falwell, 90s Limbaugh, tea party, to MAGA. All fueled by a self-reinforcing rage machine.

Left leaning folks are swept up in rage machines too. Leaf through the BoingBoing BBS sometime to get a sense for it.

Wait, in my media bubble the American left is the one consumed by rage.

The right is stupid or craven or greedy or just evil, but true righteous fury is reserved for those who saw a woman's rights not getting respected one time.

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The creators publication frequency is also an important factor. If you don't put out content at least once per week you fall off the recommended and lose a lot of views. Once your content is shallow, simple and without reflection, you are trapped in a hamster wheel of click bait vapidness.

Is this accurate in all cases? Isn't Jenny Nicholson one of the bigger YouTubers, with videos coming out maybe once or twice a year?

Seems like it might be the exception proving the rule. People say “every” restaurant these days needs to use something like Toast to provide online ordering and needs to play nice with DoorDash for delivery and needs to host ghost kitchens to increase income, etc. Of course there’s that one old-school place with the established reputation that does simple dine-in only and is thriving. But the new upstart can’t just not play the game - that privilege is reserved for those who have already won.

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At the top of the heap (Mr Beast, Nastya, Ryan, etc), this is true: > The ideal creator has no distance between themselves and their persona. They have been interpellated by audience metrics; their subjective experience already takes audience reactions into account. > Or more simply, YouTubers are not “Creators” but Creations. Audiences, rationalized by the platform, and the vloggers who upload the videos those audie…

Youtube is also killing a lot of history channels because if there's any violence (eg war) they get demonetized, the algorithm avoids them, or they can even have their channels disabled. Most now blur out pictures of the holocaust, which negates a lot of the otherwise serious impact on a serious subject. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24QgMpvX3mw

Obligatory plug for Nebula, where a lot of educational YouTube has gone for refuge from demonetization. Many creators will have different versions that they upload to Nebula containing the content that YouTube wouldn't let them add in.

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Consider the following: my personal youtube feed has never shown a video of MrBeast. I never asked to remove it from my feed. I only know the he exists because I see it being debated in the media. So, this tells me more about what people in general are interested in and click to watch, than about the nature of youtube itself.

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Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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Dhar Mann’s channel is another interesting cultural signal of what kind of content tweens are being groomed with: https://youtube.com/@dharmann?si=vsNv2M2S7LfbVvVt What is abhorrently revolting is the total amount of “Gold Digger” videos +100 and counting.. https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=76583c995a4c1c88&rlz=1...

Dang. I wanted to see what "the youths" were watching so I scrubbed through a couple of those videos.

The people in them make me feel like the world's most accomplished actor.

Re: In the belly of the MrBeast

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post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BoingBoing is still very much made in Doctorow's image. Michael Moore is an earlier example. Not suggesting equivalence, in fact I would be really interested to hear theories as to why right-wing polemicists are so much more popular (and numerous) than left-wing polemicists. On the face of it, there are a lot of left-wing things to be justifiably outraged about (especially right now). So why isn't left-wing outrage r…

See these are interesting questions. I don't have great answers. IQ gap between the sides?

This is a just-so rationalization, which feels good, but people have looked into many of these, and they don't really hold up.

The most common one is that poor white people are overwhelmingly voting for Trump. The average household income of a Trump voter is something like 75k - hardly poor (depending where you're at).

Anecdata: I know plenty of Trump voters who are very smart. A friend's dad has multiple PhD's and accomplished career as a theoretical physicist. He's also pretty racist. My father is a retired engineer, and doesn't like Trump, but keeps voting for him, because the Democrats are on the wrong side of issues he cares about. (Gun control, namely)

The reality is likely to be - they have used the mountains of publicly available data, and fine tuned their messages with the help of a highly partisan rage-baiting media ecosystem to capture more voters. It seems to me, the right wing is more organized, and manages to keep their voters and party members more aligned and on-message. They also have a much more voracious appetite for fighting dirty (rough talk, conspiracy theories, whisper campaigns, untraceable mailers giving wrong polling place info to black communities, etc.) - something the Democrats do not have the stomach for.

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