> in cybernetic terms, a long lag time in production is deadly.
Does "long lag time" or "deadly" mean something else in cybernetic terms than in regular terms? I found the "in cybernetics terms" insert quite puzzling.
In the belly of the MrBeast
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#52First of all – the essay is phenomenal and his book is available online for free – https://www.cambridge.org/core/elements/youtube-apparatus/36... > “Communication within the YouTube Apparatus has no meaning.” The rapid feedback loop between creators and audiences (as constructed by platform metrics) means that the system more and more responds to itself. Rather than trying to go somewhere (as is the case with politi…
Baudrillard just gets more relevant every day. Honestly I find it hard to imagine how someone could have media literacy in the modern day without coming to an intuitive understanding of semiotics, whether they know it or not!
Yes, the 21st century is the age of simulacra and simulation. Post-truth society.
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#53Not entirely related to MrBeast but related to YouTube. I genuinely miss the older algorithm where after watching a video you would go progressively further down a hole of videos somehow related to the one you just watched. It was quite entertaining and really uncovered fascinating videos.
I have no clue how to use YouTube. It seems like as soon as it latches on 3-4 interests of mine, the entire home page is exclusively filled with videos relating to that. I can mark videos as "not interesting" but it doesn't do much. I will see exactly the same videos on the home screen, ones that I'm not interested in and don't plan on watching, for weeks or months sometimes. I'm sure there's plenty of interesting co…
I think what you describe is what infecto was saying. You can't use YouTube to find interesting content anymore. You can only use it to find more of what you've already seen. In the past, it was better at unearthing new things.
Personally, I added uBlock filters so the home page is empty and recommended videos aren't shown. I only ever go to subscriptions now.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Baudrillard just gets more relevant every day. Honestly I find it hard to imagine how someone could have media literacy in the modern day without coming to an intuitive understanding of semiotics, whether they know it or not!
I find the ideas of Baudrillard really accurate in describing some parts of modern life, but to be honest I feel like he just saying random stuff when I tried to read one of his book. It's so metaphorical and abstract it's very difficult to understand what exactly he is saying.
He's not "just saying random stuff", he was a very serious thinker. Unlike Derrida he wasn't much of a joker.
Perhaps language is fundamentally metaphorical, and perhaps reality is actually abstract.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
It also explains why there's been an alarming trend over the last 10 years of people just getting more vehement about everything.
I think human nature dictates that this opens up a literal market for the opposite. People aren't served by exhausting hysteria, it's just a cheap date, a way to grab low hanging fruit. The more that's focussed on, the more an opportunity arises to cover abandoned needs and wants. The question becomes, is YouTube's algorithm good enough to itself pick up on this new market and serve it? I see no reason it couldn't. I…
By "human nature", what exactly are you referring to? The statistically most common amount of extremities?
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have no clue how to use YouTube. It seems like as soon as it latches on 3-4 interests of mine, the entire home page is exclusively filled with videos relating to that. I can mark videos as "not interesting" but it doesn't do much. I will see exactly the same videos on the home screen, ones that I'm not interested in and don't plan on watching, for weeks or months sometimes. I'm sure there's plenty of interesting co…
Don't use the homepage, use the subscriptions page
When you turn off search history, it makes the homepage useless and the subscriptions page becomes unavoidably the next step.
Discovery of content happens in the sidebar from videos I enjoy now, and only when I'm in the mood to discover something.
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#58> and I confess that I feel vindicated by the analytic approach in the book
I feel the opposite, everything seems reasonable, business-centric, and marketing-aware strategies.
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#59> The ideal creator has no distance between themselves and their persona. They have been interpellated by audience metrics; their subjective experience already takes audience reactions into account. Isn't this sort of one of the themes from The Prestige(2006)? That certain magicians were so dedicated to their craft that they became inseparable from it. The performance never actually stopped
A couple times that theme appears (there are more)
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https://youtu.be/uckLb_8LEGQ?t=36s
ANGIER
(scorn)
It's misdirection- he leaves those things lying around to make you think he's using a double.
OLIVIA
All the time? He doesn't know when I'm looking
ANGIER
All the time, Olivia- that's who he is, that's what it takes- he lives his act, don't you see?!
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Also the dialogue after the fishbowl performance https://youtu.be/J8ZXT2HTxqE?t=34s
BORDEN
(points)
This is the trick. This is the performance, right here. This is why no one can detect his method. Total devotion to his art...
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#60> This beauty is an ever-shifting target. The platform architecture and viewer preferences can change overnight; in cybernetic terms, a long lag time in production is deadly. MrBeast needs to be able to adapt to trends, vindicating my audience-driven framework for understanding YouTube.
That's actually not true. MrBest is saying the opposite in the leaked PDF, that fundamentals don't change much since he started.