I don't like lawyers so I use public domain.
Also code is like math which is public domain.
Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
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Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#52Thanks Campfire team for doing this. It’s great to be able to see the thinking around how something like this was built.
> Thanks Campfire team for doing this.
Now that's an interesting comment. This product is called Campsite not Campfire but I was confused by that myself.
I'd not heard of Campsite before but it sounds like it might have been in the same problem space as 37 Signal's old Campfire product.
Does anyone have any more background and if the two are related?
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#53How exactly do you use what looks like work-planning software non-commerically? As for the license, it's their code and they can release it under whatever license they want, but they obviously shouldn't call it open source. Usually companies do this sort of thing to take advantage FOSS's reputation, but in this case it just looks like ignorance to me.
Without having a deeper look into it - could be a replacement for any non-profit or bigger sports club or whatever org that uses Slack or Zulip or whatever now.
But that's about everything that comes to my mind...
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#54I understand the concern with calling something licensed with CC BY-NC “open source”, but I’m very interested in reading the complete source of a modern comercial app.
It’s rare that we get to see the complete picture of something that has many paying customers like this, and I’m thankful for the Campsite team for sharing it.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#55Thanks Campfire team for doing this. It’s great to be able to see the thinking around how something like this was built.
> Thanks Campfire team for doing this. Now that's an interesting comment. This product is called Camp site not Camp fire but I was confused by that myself. I'd not heard of Campsite before but it sounds like it might have been in the same problem space as 37 Signal's old Campfire product. Does anyone have any more background and if the two are related?
lol, I meant Campsite. I did love the original Campfire from 37 Signals though. Freudian slip on my part.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#56What's Campsite? Nothing here describes it.
A creatively named basecamp.com competitor
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#57I don't like lawyers so I use public domain. Also code is like math which is public domain.
Which doesn't exist in some jurisdictions.
Or at least the right to put something into the public domain.
Same with moral rights of the creator.
Code is explicitly not like math. There's been half a century of case law about it.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#58So the license makes it more like a tombstone of the source. It can't be used except for non-commerical use, whatever that means.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#59People complaining about the license are missing this - https://www.notion.com/blog/welcoming-campsites-founders-to-...
Notion bought the company. They have no reason to want the product to actually be open source, because they'd just be helping a potential competitor.
Re: Campsite switches to Creative Commons Non-Commercial license
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
A typical distinction is „source available“ or „public source“ vs „open source“ (no restrictions on use other than potentially keeping the openness intact and attribution).
It's only "open source" if it's from the OSI region of France. Otherwise, it's just "sparkling available".
The difference here is more important than that.