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Re: A laptop stand made from a single sheet of recycled paper

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Post by alias_neo »

gruez wrote: post #138
alias_neo wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a roost when they launched, still have it, practical and durable, I imagine I'll always have it. The problem with this paper one is that the paper will wear within a couple of years, and if you spill your coffee on it or anything like that or put it down on a coffee-ring stain, it's straight in the bin. I fail to see the value in something made from recyclable that is essentially disposable rather than a roost…

Why is it so expensive? It looks and functions exactly like a dozen other similar stands on aliexpress.

Honestly, I don't know, I bought it a decade ago when it launched.

It was a fair bit cheaper, I want to say more like $60, I suppose "inflation" is the reason.

EDIT: 2016 I bought my roost stand, it's still good as new.

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Post by vismit2000 »

xelxebar wrote: post #186

Looks like a Miura fold: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miura_fold . When going to theme parks and the like, I love folding the physical maps like this. It's nice that the maps stay rigid when fully open, and the single-motion for opening and closing is glorious.

Miura-ori fold covered very nicely in this video at timestamp 34:10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p02DtmyQhU

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Post by RicoElectrico »

calmbonsai wrote: post #78

I'm reminded of similarly useless "sustainable cardboard furniture" that came out about a decade ago. On the positive side, kudos to whomever in marketing/pr at the design firm got this useless product so much press. This is just the sort of "win" that a design consulting shop loves to have for actual briefs that lead to real moving-the-needle revenue. One example would be SmartDesign's modular slip-on "S-Grips" that…

Some say Teenage Engineering products are mostly PR to promote their design studio (which is contracted by e.g. Ikea). Because indeed, value for money is not there. Or the product itself is preposterous (like their voice recorder).

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Post by lopis »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #192
n3storm wrote: post #79

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LoL. Not only useless but also uncomfortable. My wrists get itchy when looking at those zigzag bevels...

https://roominabox.de/ The Bett 2.0 was one of the most comfortable things I’ve ever slept on. The Grid Bed was useless and fell apart.

Have one for several years. The main problem is cleaning it. Good luck cleaning the dust and spider webs from hundreds of individual holes. But otherwise, it's extremely sturdy and stable.

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Post by kiririn »

crazygringo wrote: post #105
kiririn wrote: post #40

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Never heard of nexstand but it looks suboptimal for keeping the small laptop screen as close as possible to your eyes My preferred design is like https://amzn.eu/d/0KB8nGM (2x U shapes of metal), which lets you have the keyboard underneath the laptop , so the laptop is as close to the edge of the desk as if you weren’t using an external keyboard

You don't want a small laptop screen as close as possible to your eyes. That's asking for eyestrain and problems in the long-term. If you're having trouble seeing clearly, you should use glasses and/or increase the system-wide font size (or decrease the "resolution").

Thanks, I keep all monitors (laptop or not) at arms length for work/reading, but for gaming or other immersive activities a 13in screen needs to be closer to match the experience of a full size monitor

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Post by K0balt »

harrison_clarke wrote: post #80
latexr wrote: post #47

The article is seemingly outdated. The cheapest one I could find in the store was 29 USD. In Euros, it’s 36.37. And of course, you still have to pay for shipping. From Korea. This seems quite absurd. Whatever good you do the planet by using something out of recycled paper (thumbs up on the idea) will surely be offset by all the logistics of the shipping. This should have been a tutorial, not a product.

it also seems like a very small savings. the thing sitting on top of it is full of lithium, cobalt, etc. so why should i care if it's sitting on a bit of plastic/aluminum/wood? that said, a tutorial to turn the shipping box for your laptop (or a flat of diet coke) into a stand would be good. useful in a pinch edit: keyboard box might be the best box to print the fold lines on. you need that for a minimally ergo lapto…

For 20 dollars I can buy an aluminium and stainless steel laptop stand that adjusts from a thin wedge up to holding my screen a nearly eye height.

It will outlast me, and folds into a smaller size that fits nicely in my laptop bag.

Laptops will probably go away, but it could be handed down for generations, and when it no longer can be used, the majority of the energy and resources used to make it can be recouped through recycling it’s intrinsically valuable metals.

This 20 dollar piece of paper will last until the first month in a humid environment.

This should be a tutorial on how to reuse discarded material into an improvised, impromptu laptop stand.

If I saw someone pull this out of a box and put their laptop on it, they would lose a great deal of credibility in my estimation. If I saw someone make this out of some waste paper in a coffee shop, I would be intrigued and compelled to seek an opportunity to see if that person was open to making new acquaintances and sharing ideas.

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Post by dusted »

Selling a piece of cardboard for $22 is an amazing achievement, recycled or not. It's beyond my comprehension. The world is at the same time much too poor and much too rich. I'm already sensing the throwing away of perfectly good (and forever durable) plastic and metal laptop stands, to be replaced by this glorious virtue signal.

AAaand let the down-voting of my opinion begin....

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Post by lupire »

gruez wrote: post #136
yathern wrote: post #112

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Your way of thinking definitely isn't entirely incorrect, and I think a lot of times people forget that prices, while they can certainly have an arbitrary component, are largely driven by market forces, which at the very least will tell you something about the supply and demand of a product. However, I disagree with this: > And all these additional costs likely make it the "wrong" decision since they likely contribut…

>However there's another company that buys cheap land from farmers in the Amazon, with cheaper labor, ships it up via freight, and sells it for marginally cheaper. The costs in the latter example are largely driven by transportation - and while cheaper, has a significantly larger carbon impact. How does this apply to recycling though? Landfills in developed countries have little, if any externalities, because they're…

They are engineered to contain solid waste, but often pollute the air and water, because the externality is cheaper than containing that waste.

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Post by lupire »

murderfs wrote: post #120
davidodio wrote: post #111

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“Costs” often ignore externalities like environmental damage and inequality. Landfilling or dumping plastic may be cheaper now, but it shifts the true cost — centuries of pollution —onto vulnerable communities today. There is a reason the clothing dumps are in Ghana and Chile, rather than wealthier nations like the US or Germany. If the price to companies profiting from plastics included exteralities I could possibly…

The reason the clothing dumps exist is greenwashing. If we weren't pretending that reusing clothing is meaningful to the environment, we'd just burn the clothing locally.

Why don't the greenwashers greenwash burning clothes locally?

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Post by feistypharit »

radlad wrote: post #87
calmbonsai wrote: post #78

I'm reminded of similarly useless "sustainable cardboard furniture" that came out about a decade ago. On the positive side, kudos to whomever in marketing/pr at the design firm got this useless product so much press. This is just the sort of "win" that a design consulting shop loves to have for actual briefs that lead to real moving-the-needle revenue. One example would be SmartDesign's modular slip-on "S-Grips" that…

This is a bit of a random place to mention it, but while I very much like OXO goods, IKEA makes the best (in my opinion) potato peeler for $5 - cheaper than anything OXO makes: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/ikea-365-vaerdefull-potato-peel...

The ikea one mentions peeling asparagus. Is that a thing?
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