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DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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Post by suraci »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #12
move-on-by wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the alternative is getting your product banned, I suspect legal would figure something out. I appreciate the response, but it seems the opposite is happening. They have the feature already and are actively rolling it back. So they must believe the feature’s existence is a bigger threat to the company than not having it at all, right?

> So they must believe the feature’s existence is a bigger threat to the company than not having it at all, right? No, they’re probably simply doing the CCP’s bidding by allowing agents of the CCP, who already are in these countries, to use their drones to collect intelligence, disrupt operations, etc.

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Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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Post by rawandriddled »

torginus wrote: post #19
ChiefNotAClue wrote: post #17

It seems like a retaliatory move regarding the potential ban. If lawmakers are going to assert that DJI drones threats to national security, might as well disable the built-in geofencing and demonstrate the kind of threat they could be. Not saying this is right or wrong... but when the ban singles them out as a threat, and much of the competition doesn't the same level of safety features, you can imagine why they mig…

I was just thinking about this, but with the Ukraine war going on, and both sides eating through tens (hundreds) of thousands of drones each day, the perception of DJI being a military company might very well be justified. I mean, how many regular people buy drones, and how often? My guess would be one in 50 buys a new drone every 4 years. With that kind of demand, I guess Russia and Ukraine's drone demand might be e…

They install their own firmware. See 1001 firmware, for example.

Also, it's unlikely front line internet is capable of streaming the video back to DJI.

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Post by yellowapple »

kid64 wrote: post #9
yellowapple wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think implementing our own Great Firewall is the direction I'd want to see from the alleged bastion of freedom and democracy. A destroy-on-sight policy for unauthorized drones in restricted airspaces seems like a good enough solution for this problem without online censorship. Don't want your expensive drone blown to smithereens? Don't fly it where you ain't supposed to be flying it. (And on the flip-side, th…

> alleged bastion of ... democracy. They're referring to the new administration, so pivoting away from this designation.

Hence "alleged".

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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Post by herbst »

move-on-by wrote: post #5

I’m not taking sides, but I do have a question for anyone with legal understanding. I feel like, if I worked for a drone company and wanted to roll out a new feature to block flights close to ‘restricted zones’, then the legal department would throw a fit. I can imagine them saying that the new feature would expose the company if the feature ever failed or didn’t have a complete list of locations to block. It’s bette…

This. The zones never have been complete and sometimes to restrictive. I rather have no zones programmed in because I know that I am fully liable anyway.

Cars don't refuse to get into one way streets and it's 100% the drivers fault.

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Post by sumedh »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #11

I don’t buy the excuse of DJI adhering to a principle that the responsibility is in the drone operator’s hands. Their motivation is almost certainly to cause disruption, aid in espionage, and do the bidding of the CCP. There have been so many instances of Chinese nationals “accidentally” flying drones near sensitive properties. Or accidentally approaching or encroaching on military property on foot or in a vehicle. A…

> We need to ban flight of DJI drones

Is there any American drone company making better drones?

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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Post by demarq »

A lot of people would rather DIY simply to not have nanny features.

This could be less about retaliation and more run of the mill profiteering.

With no long term future viable a short term solution might be to just unlock the drones and capture the rest of the market.

Which is what I think is happening here.

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Post by xinayder »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #11

I don’t buy the excuse of DJI adhering to a principle that the responsibility is in the drone operator’s hands. Their motivation is almost certainly to cause disruption, aid in espionage, and do the bidding of the CCP. There have been so many instances of Chinese nationals “accidentally” flying drones near sensitive properties. Or accidentally approaching or encroaching on military property on foot or in a vehicle. A…

Can I build an EMP device to take down a drone if it flies over my property?

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Post by cma »

wmf wrote: post #14
move-on-by wrote: post #5

I’m not taking sides, but I do have a question for anyone with legal understanding. I feel like, if I worked for a drone company and wanted to roll out a new feature to block flights close to ‘restricted zones’, then the legal department would throw a fit. I can imagine them saying that the new feature would expose the company if the feature ever failed or didn’t have a complete list of locations to block. It’s bette…

DJI introduced multiple "safety" features then lobbied for regulation making those features mandatory. They were already compliant with the regulations but their competitors weren't. It's a standard regulatory capture play.

Its a common sense feature that most people appreciate. Often a consumer getting a drone for Christmas doesn't know they are near a reserved airspace for a hospital helipad.

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Post by knd775 »

sumedh wrote: post #25
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #11

I don’t buy the excuse of DJI adhering to a principle that the responsibility is in the drone operator’s hands. Their motivation is almost certainly to cause disruption, aid in espionage, and do the bidding of the CCP. There have been so many instances of Chinese nationals “accidentally” flying drones near sensitive properties. Or accidentally approaching or encroaching on military property on foot or in a vehicle. A…

> We need to ban flight of DJI drones Is there any American drone company making better drones?

Not even close

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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Post by ktallett »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #11

I don’t buy the excuse of DJI adhering to a principle that the responsibility is in the drone operator’s hands. Their motivation is almost certainly to cause disruption, aid in espionage, and do the bidding of the CCP. There have been so many instances of Chinese nationals “accidentally” flying drones near sensitive properties. Or accidentally approaching or encroaching on military property on foot or in a vehicle. A…

Drones should be banned but never any effort to ban guns, huh?! It is a rather odd focus considering a satellite can garner pretty much all the information a drone would.
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