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DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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I don’t buy the excuse of DJI adhering to a principle that the responsibility is in the drone operator’s hands. Their motivation is almost certainly to cause disruption, aid in espionage, and do the bidding of the CCP. There have been so many instances of Chinese nationals “accidentally” flying drones near sensitive properties. Or accidentally approaching or encroaching on military property on foot or in a vehicle. And many properties adjacent to sensitive properties have been purchased by Chinese nationals or China-affiliated companies.

All of this is part of a continuous campaign of asymmetric warfare. We need to ban flight of DJI drones, disable them all through some means, or confiscate them all. Unfortunately that may only affect law abiding citizens and the ones looking to conduct espionage or disrupt operations will still just do whatever they want to do. But the bigger problem is that American politicians have been absolutely asleep at the wheel in managing China. They need to be FAR more aggressive with China, wage asymmetric warfare back, and even wage direct warfare by destroying key Chinese properties like ship building facilities, to reduce their ability to gain power.

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the alternative is getting your product banned, I suspect legal would figure something out. Given the continuing drone idiocies with the California fires, I would expect a blanket ban coming unless an automated system can instantly comply with FAA airspace restrictions.

> If the alternative is getting your product banned, I suspect legal would figure something out. I appreciate the response, but it seems the opposite is happening. They have the feature already and are actively rolling it back. So they must believe the feature’s existence is a bigger threat to the company than not having it at all, right?

> So they must believe the feature’s existence is a bigger threat to the company than not having it at all, right?

No, they’re probably simply doing the CCP’s bidding by allowing agents of the CCP, who already are in these countries, to use their drones to collect intelligence, disrupt operations, etc.

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the alternative is getting your product banned, I suspect legal would figure something out. Given the continuing drone idiocies with the California fires, I would expect a blanket ban coming unless an automated system can instantly comply with FAA airspace restrictions.

> If the alternative is getting your product banned, I suspect legal would figure something out. I appreciate the response, but it seems the opposite is happening. They have the feature already and are actively rolling it back. So they must believe the feature’s existence is a bigger threat to the company than not having it at all, right?

Define "bigger threat".

It could be the feature was so half-baked that it kicked in and dropped a bunch of drones out of the sky and DJI had to cough up refunds. It could be that DJI knows something about upcoming legal issues with the current administration. It could be that Chinese intelligence wants flyovers of restricted airspaces.

DJI isn't "just" a company--it's an arm of the Chinese government. Trying to predict what's happening at the interface between those two is like trying to read tea leaves--only reading tea leaves is likely to be more accurate and consistent.

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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I’m not taking sides, but I do have a question for anyone with legal understanding. I feel like, if I worked for a drone company and wanted to roll out a new feature to block flights close to ‘restricted zones’, then the legal department would throw a fit. I can imagine them saying that the new feature would expose the company if the feature ever failed or didn’t have a complete list of locations to block. It’s bette…

DJI introduced multiple "safety" features then lobbied for regulation making those features mandatory. They were already compliant with the regulations but their competitors weren't. It's a standard regulatory capture play.

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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I don’t buy the excuse of DJI adhering to a principle that the responsibility is in the drone operator’s hands. Their motivation is almost certainly to cause disruption, aid in espionage, and do the bidding of the CCP. There have been so many instances of Chinese nationals “accidentally” flying drones near sensitive properties. Or accidentally approaching or encroaching on military property on foot or in a vehicle. A…

>>Unfortunately that may only affect law abiding citizens and the ones looking to conduct espionage or disrupt operations will still just do whatever they want to do.

Why suggest something so absurd

>>wage direct warfare by destroying key Chinese properties like ship building facilities,

oh.

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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It seems like a retaliatory move regarding the potential ban. If lawmakers are going to assert that DJI drones threats to national security, might as well disable the built-in geofencing and demonstrate the kind of threat they could be. Not saying this is right or wrong... but when the ban singles them out as a threat, and much of the competition doesn't the same level of safety features, you can imagine why they might want to retaliate.

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

#18

I don’t buy the excuse of DJI adhering to a principle that the responsibility is in the drone operator’s hands. Their motivation is almost certainly to cause disruption, aid in espionage, and do the bidding of the CCP. There have been so many instances of Chinese nationals “accidentally” flying drones near sensitive properties. Or accidentally approaching or encroaching on military property on foot or in a vehicle. A…

>Their motivation is almost certainly to cause disruption, aid in espionage, and do the bidding of the CCP.

This reads like a carricature of patriotic 80s movie dialogue. At least it skips the bodily fluids part.

It's tit for tat for the threats of them getting banned, that's all.

Nobody needs commercial local drones for all that, nation states have had powerful satellites and other means. Jackie Chan flying a Mavic over some facility ain't gonna reavel shit anybody doesn't already know...

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

#19

It seems like a retaliatory move regarding the potential ban. If lawmakers are going to assert that DJI drones threats to national security, might as well disable the built-in geofencing and demonstrate the kind of threat they could be. Not saying this is right or wrong... but when the ban singles them out as a threat, and much of the competition doesn't the same level of safety features, you can imagine why they mig…

I was just thinking about this, but with the Ukraine war going on, and both sides eating through tens (hundreds) of thousands of drones each day, the perception of DJI being a military company might very well be justified.

I mean, how many regular people buy drones, and how often? My guess would be one in 50 buys a new drone every 4 years. With that kind of demand, I guess Russia and Ukraine's drone demand might be equivalent to the entire Western world's

If those drones feed back camera data and telemetry, the Chinese might have access to the biggest military drone training dataset in the entire world by far.

Re: DJI No Longer Blocks Flights over Airports and Military Bases

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I don’t buy the excuse of DJI adhering to a principle that the responsibility is in the drone operator’s hands. Their motivation is almost certainly to cause disruption, aid in espionage, and do the bidding of the CCP. There have been so many instances of Chinese nationals “accidentally” flying drones near sensitive properties. Or accidentally approaching or encroaching on military property on foot or in a vehicle. A…

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