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Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by carlosjobim »

claudiulodro wrote: post #89
huijzer wrote: post #19

Hopefully many sites will switch to a static site generator like Hugo or Zola. Way lower costs, lower risk of being hacked (almost impossible actually), and a reliable backup thanks to Git. I’m running multiple static sites for years already and am very happy with it. It has been very reliable.

Sure, some of the web is read-only, but what about commenting, contact forms, forums, eCommerce or anything else that requires a proper server? That's a big advantage WP and other full CMS have over static site generators.

Every ecommerce requirement is better served by iframes than by WordPress plugins.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by magicalhippo »

prepend wrote: post #95
internetter wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider a static site. They cannot be hacked, they are cheaper to host, and once the files are generated they are immutable

They can certainly be hacked, just like any static site. Web servers have vulnerabilities. And the files can certainly be edited as they aren’t immutable. They are less resource intensive and easier to maintain, but aren’t immune. (Running mostly static sites converted from Wordpress sites, but also running 10 year old+ word press sites that haven’t been changed in forever)

I had a website got hacked when the FTP server running on the shared host got exploited. They added some malware injection code to the index.html file.

After that I added a cron job that compared the hash of the index.html with a precomputed value. Didn't change often enough to be a hassle.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by dustyharddrive »

andrewflnr wrote: post #129
prepend wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can certainly be hacked, just like any static site. Web servers have vulnerabilities. And the files can certainly be edited as they aren’t immutable. They are less resource intensive and easier to maintain, but aren’t immune. (Running mostly static sites converted from Wordpress sites, but also running 10 year old+ word press sites that haven’t been changed in forever)

You're not wrong, but compromising a server that exposes nginx configured for static files, sshd, and nothing else is at least an order of mag or two harder. Probably no one is going to drop an nginx 0day on your blog.

And you can run one written in a memory-safe language, like Caddy.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by gigatexal »

Good. As I’ve said in other threads. There are other projects, other CMSes that are perfectly capable of taking over. Let the Wordpress monopoly die and with it this crazy man’s tirades.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by csa »

macspoofing wrote: post #115

Is the entire drama that WordPress is asserting a trademark over 'WPEngine' (i.e. 'WP'), and WPEngine disagrees?

> Is the entire drama that WordPress is asserting a trademark over 'WPEngine' (i.e. 'WP'), and WPEngine disagrees?

That is a minor issue in the disagreement.

The bigger issue is that WPEngine had its access to Wordpress cut off on very short notice for questionable reasons.

This obviously had a negative impact on WPEngine’s business, but also on all of the business that WPEngine served. I think the latter part is what has a lot of folks up in arms — the collateral damage was really tone deaf (imho).

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

chrismsimpson wrote: post #168
dangrossman wrote: post #86

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I don't think it's a mental breakdown, I think this is a (poorly executed) long pivot into Matt's companies having tighter control over the ecosystem and keeping more of the profits from hosting, plugin and theme sales. He's burning down "the community" on purpose. In a couple years, it'll be run more like Shopify, where the theme store and app store only list products that run their billing through Shopify and give…

Perhaps more indicative of late stage capitalism where rent seekers try to extract more and more value and consolidate more and more power.

How is this unique to "late stage capitalism"? That same sentence can be used mad lib style for any human endevor.

>Perhaps more indicative of ________ where rent seekers try to extract more and more value and consolidate more and more power

Feudal Europe Roman patrician class British Raj Ming dynasty bureaucrats Latin American drug cartels etc

Point being that the "late stage capitalism" people lack rigor and don't add to the conversation

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by carlosjobim »

Dalewyn wrote: post #22
huijzer wrote: post #19

Hopefully many sites will switch to a static site generator like Hugo or Zola. Way lower costs, lower risk of being hacked (almost impossible actually), and a reliable backup thanks to Git. I’m running multiple static sites for years already and am very happy with it. It has been very reliable.

>switch to a static site generator like Hugo or Zola At that point just write your own HTML and never be beholden to some abstraction framework toolkit corporation cooperative ever again.

You are completely right and the people down voting you are severely deranged. A HTML site + a wysiwyg solution like Surreal CMS is miles better than any site generators, easy to use for the client, and dirt cheap.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by akho »

Dalewyn wrote: post #175
akho wrote: post #94

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Have you tried maintaining a blog with plain hand-written HTML? You need, at the least, single post pages (for permalinks), an index page, and an RSS feed — all slightly different views of the same content. It gets messy, and at some point you write your own SSG, which somehow becomes worse. This is without going into how you ideally want an image pipeline, sitemaps, cards for twitter and stuff, maybe category pages,…

>Have you tried maintaining a blog with plain hand-written HTML? Yes. It's all a lot simpler than dealing with some abstraction framework toolkit, at least for me. Maybe it's because I learned to write websites in the early 2000s where writing your own HTML and CSS was par for the course. You'd also write PHP or Ruby or ASP or something if you wanted to get fancy.

It's certainly easier until you have to deal with different views of the same content. I do not trust myself to keep things consistent, and neither should you.

Back in the day I'd have clobbered something together with SSIs to have, at least, a single copy of text to maintain, but that gets old quickly.

A determined and focused person can probably make do with single-post pages and a titles-only styled rss.

Hugo and Zola serve a wider audience.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ethbr1 wrote: post #144
simple10 wrote: post #109

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I feel for him and the people in his wake. Benevolent dictators of open source are great for productivity until benevolence gives way to malevolence. At this point, if he stepped down it would be seen as giving in. So highly unlikely until the legal dust settles a bit. I also agree with other commenters that it's not a mental breakdown but more of a poorly executed strategy that's been in the works for awhile. To tak…

> Benevolent dictators of open source are great for productivity until benevolence gives way to malevolence. Autocracy is more efficient, with the best leaders. Democracy is more stable, with the worst leaders. The suboptimal cases are autocracy with bad leaders or democracy with good leaders. I think it's also pretty common that autocratic leaders go badly quickly. The same focus and dedication that drove them also…

> The suboptimal cases are autocracy with bad leaders or democracy with good leaders

If we're talking real-life dictatorships and republics, the latter make much better use of brilliant leaders' talents. In part by not having a power struggle at the end that, on a coin flip, decides if the work survives.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by fancyswimtime »

65 wrote: post #82
mrtksn wrote: post #33

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Did he drink that psychoactive wine?

Perhaps he tried some Ayahuasca and now "doesn't care about anything" and it reinforced his narcissism. Ayahuasca (and DMT for that matter) tend to make people not care about anything, so I wonder if he did some and has been affected by it. Just a guess, though.

DMT makes people not care about anything? seems like a blanket statement without any basis
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