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WordPress Is in Trouble

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Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by ptx »

karaterobot wrote: post #17

I've had a Wordpress blog for about 25 years. This makes me want to turn off automatic updates, since I'm worried he might just go nuclear and flip some sort of kill switch that bricks every blog, or push some ridiculous anti-Wordpress Engine banner to every installation. Of course, not keeping WP up to date is very risky as well. I'm not even insensitive to his position, even though I don't know full details. But, h…

What about using distro packages? That would insulate you from upstream suddenly turning malicious.

I'm not sure if Debian's packages are kept up to date with security patches, though. The latest changes to the wordpress package[0] were in December 2022 and and May 2024.

[0] https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/w/wo...

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by nejsjsjsbsb »

65 wrote: post #82
mrtksn wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did he drink that psychoactive wine?

Perhaps he tried some Ayahuasca and now "doesn't care about anything" and it reinforced his narcissism. Ayahuasca (and DMT for that matter) tend to make people not care about anything, so I wonder if he did some and has been affected by it. Just a guess, though.

Is Ayahuasca passé now?

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by ozim »

internetter wrote: post #79
jazzyjackson wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The principal use of Wordpress IME experience is so people can add content without learning markdown and git and so on

There are CMSes that work with static site generators. Static site generators do not imply that the input is markdown, though this is often the usecase. Any CMS that is decoupled from presentation, in fact, could be used for static site generation. Just read the structure and generate an appropriate HTML tree statically. Here are some CMSes with specific thought given to this use: https://decapcms.org/ https://getkir…

You forgot to mention Wordpress as you also can publish static websites wit it.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by akho »

Dalewyn wrote: post #22
huijzer wrote: post #19

Hopefully many sites will switch to a static site generator like Hugo or Zola. Way lower costs, lower risk of being hacked (almost impossible actually), and a reliable backup thanks to Git. I’m running multiple static sites for years already and am very happy with it. It has been very reliable.

>switch to a static site generator like Hugo or Zola At that point just write your own HTML and never be beholden to some abstraction framework toolkit corporation cooperative ever again.

Have you tried maintaining a blog with plain hand-written HTML? You need, at the least, single post pages (for permalinks), an index page, and an RSS feed — all slightly different views of the same content. It gets messy, and at some point you write your own SSG, which somehow becomes worse.

This is without going into how you ideally want an image pipeline, sitemaps, cards for twitter and stuff, maybe category pages, …

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by prepend »

internetter wrote: post #74
karaterobot wrote: post #17

I've had a Wordpress blog for about 25 years. This makes me want to turn off automatic updates, since I'm worried he might just go nuclear and flip some sort of kill switch that bricks every blog, or push some ridiculous anti-Wordpress Engine banner to every installation. Of course, not keeping WP up to date is very risky as well. I'm not even insensitive to his position, even though I don't know full details. But, h…

Consider a static site. They cannot be hacked, they are cheaper to host, and once the files are generated they are immutable

They can certainly be hacked, just like any static site. Web servers have vulnerabilities.

And the files can certainly be edited as they aren’t immutable.

They are less resource intensive and easier to maintain, but aren’t immune.

(Running mostly static sites converted from Wordpress sites, but also running 10 year old+ word press sites that haven’t been changed in forever)

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by ben_w »

mrtksn wrote: post #51
ben_w wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely non-psychoactive wine is just grape juice?

right, let’s try again: Did he drink THAT psychoactive wine?

I'm clearly missing some key context here, judging by the other two comments seeming to know what you're talking about, but I'm none the wiser about what's the deal with him and… Ayahuasca? which I'd never heard of before this thread.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

#97

Post by MattGaiser »

beshrkayali wrote: post #64

I really think Matt is suffering from some sort of a mental breakdown. It’s a sad situation and there’s a lot to learn about open source projects with a huge user base and where the bottle necks exist. But I think people who know or are close to him should seriously consider an intervention. I can’t believe after two decades he’d just decide to throw it all out in a blazing fire and tarnish his reputation (and Wordpr…

> because of some valuation drop or being short on money.

Why is that hard to believe? People have done much worse for much less money.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by andix »

greggman7 wrote: post #49
treyd wrote: post #32

WordPress is a very mature project with a long legacy but I'm surprised that there hasn't been a larger profile attempt to make a spiritual successor to it that can shake the baggage of being PHP and the long history of vulns that have come along with it. I'm imagining some very pluggable and template driven runtime that you can ship very declarative packages for. The spicy take would be to use a Scheme for the templ…

What would replace it? PHP is unique in that it makes sharing a server trivial and low-resource compared to almost every other solution. A simple example might be that you can run 100s of PHP forums on a single machine low memory machine but if you want to use discourse (not written in PHP), it requires 10x 20x the resources for a single forum. This is true about almost every other solution AFAICT.

That's probably the best explanation. There is no real alternative to PHP if you want to host cheap and simple. It's also really easy to deploy WordPress to a shared hoster, just by uploading a few files via FTP/etc and setting up a MySQL connection.

Or is CGI still a thing and a possible alternative for shared webspaces?

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by disiplus »

huijzer wrote: post #19

Hopefully many sites will switch to a static site generator like Hugo or Zola. Way lower costs, lower risk of being hacked (almost impossible actually), and a reliable backup thanks to Git. I’m running multiple static sites for years already and am very happy with it. It has been very reliable.

The benefit of WP is the huge theme and plugin ecosystem. I know of people that started a business just on WP + theme + plugin without any dev expirience or money for a developer

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by [deleted] »

realce wrote: post #90
65 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps he tried some Ayahuasca and now "doesn't care about anything" and it reinforced his narcissism. Ayahuasca (and DMT for that matter) tend to make people not care about anything, so I wonder if he did some and has been affected by it. Just a guess, though.

What a wild and disconnected assertion.

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