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WordPress Is in Trouble

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Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by hombre_fatal »

treyd wrote: post #32

WordPress is a very mature project with a long legacy but I'm surprised that there hasn't been a larger profile attempt to make a spiritual successor to it that can shake the baggage of being PHP and the long history of vulns that have come along with it. I'm imagining some very pluggable and template driven runtime that you can ship very declarative packages for. The spicy take would be to use a Scheme for the templ…

It's just a reminder how much "right place at the right time" plays into the phenomenon of ubiquity, from Wordpress to Harry Potter to Zoom to Javascript.

There are countless efforts to make the next Wordpress out there, yet no combination of Scheme and Rust is going to make up for the critical missing ingredient of "right place at the right time".

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by woleium »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #36
huijzer wrote: post #19

Hopefully many sites will switch to a static site generator like Hugo or Zola. Way lower costs, lower risk of being hacked (almost impossible actually), and a reliable backup thanks to Git. I’m running multiple static sites for years already and am very happy with it. It has been very reliable.

The principal use of Wordpress IME experience is so people can add content without learning markdown and git and so on

With AI that is now possible without wordpress

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by Analemma_ »

lenova wrote: post #25

I've only been passively following the Wordpress drama. Almost a year ago, Mullenweg blogged about taking a 3 month sabbatical that I found interesting, and I assumed this would have been a period of recharging... but things have seemed to gone off the rails since. Was there any correlational between the sabbatical and current drama, or was that just coincidence?

It went off the rails during his sabbatical. He was ranting about WP "freeloaders" and doxxing random Tumblr users when he was supposed to be on vacation.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by voytec »

Narcissistic personality disorder[0] is unnoticeable for a person having it, but makes lives of all around them a living hell. Such person is always right, and the 99.99% people around with an opposite opinion/viewpoint are idiots. If some "idiot" is standing up, there comes the retaliation part.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disor...

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by withinboredom »

fullstop wrote: post #9
pryelluw wrote: post #5

At this point, I’m planning to move away from Wordpress due to the instability and into a regular wiki based site. Unsure of which at the moment, maybe some suggestions? Prefer static file based rather than host a DB.

https://ghost.org/ perhaps?

ghost is worse than wp imho. Lots of sneaky affiliate links, and they only integrate stuff that does affiliate linking; the self-hosted version calls home as well.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by ben_w »

mrtksn wrote: post #33
lenova wrote: post #25

I've only been passively following the Wordpress drama. Almost a year ago, Mullenweg blogged about taking a 3 month sabbatical that I found interesting, and I assumed this would have been a period of recharging... but things have seemed to gone off the rails since. Was there any correlational between the sabbatical and current drama, or was that just coincidence?

Did he drink that psychoactive wine?

Surely non-psychoactive wine is just grape juice?

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

#48

Post by andrewmcwatters »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #41
treyd wrote: post #32

WordPress is a very mature project with a long legacy but I'm surprised that there hasn't been a larger profile attempt to make a spiritual successor to it that can shake the baggage of being PHP and the long history of vulns that have come along with it. I'm imagining some very pluggable and template driven runtime that you can ship very declarative packages for. The spicy take would be to use a Scheme for the templ…

It's just a reminder how much "right place at the right time" plays into the phenomenon of ubiquity, from Wordpress to Harry Potter to Zoom to Javascript. There are countless efforts to make the next Wordpress out there, yet no combination of Scheme and Rust is going to make up for the critical missing ingredient of "right place at the right time".

This is the right time. Strike while the iron is hot. People are angry and concerned. Someone just needs to come forward with an attractive way to capitalize on the situation.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

#49

Post by greggman7 »

treyd wrote: post #32

WordPress is a very mature project with a long legacy but I'm surprised that there hasn't been a larger profile attempt to make a spiritual successor to it that can shake the baggage of being PHP and the long history of vulns that have come along with it. I'm imagining some very pluggable and template driven runtime that you can ship very declarative packages for. The spicy take would be to use a Scheme for the templ…

What would replace it?

PHP is unique in that it makes sharing a server trivial and low-resource compared to almost every other solution.

A simple example might be that you can run 100s of PHP forums on a single machine low memory machine but if you want to use discourse (not written in PHP), it requires 10x 20x the resources for a single forum.

This is true about almost every other solution AFAICT.

Re: WordPress Is in Trouble

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Post by softwaredoug »

pluc wrote: post #11

Mullenweg is in trouble, WordPress is gonna be fine. https://gist.github.com/adrienne/aea9dd7ca19c8985157d9c42f7f...

Without a canonical fork for the community (and crucially plugin authors) to rally around it’ll be a bit like Linux distros without a shared executable format, making life difficult for everyone and making it harder to keep critical mass for any vendor.
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