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Re: The relationship recession is going global

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The pressure to produce more humans was mostly to fuel the armies that need constant supply of young people to throw into the meat grinder; at least in the past centuries in Europe

You really think people chose to have children and raised them to satisfy military requirements? While it may be sadly true that many young people died like that, that isn't why men and women have children.

Not “the people” but those in power in society created the cultural framework that incentivised people to get a lot of kids

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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> Finding beautiful women on the arm of a man who is old or unattractive man is easy, if he has other attributes women like more. Only seen this with gold diggers. I’ve never seen this in any other circumstance. It’s well accepted that modern couples are mostly paired off by their looks. You’re not seeing models with average looking guys unless she’s trying to escape poverty - which means she’s not with you but with…

Yes I know about the psychology papers that you're referring to, and wealth can be one of those attributes, but there are many others and it wasn't that in this case. She certainly did not need to escape poverty.

You’re also in Europe. The culture is very different.

I’m living in regions where homes regularly cost $3m. It’s unfortunate but people of similar backgrounds pair off here cause it’s unfair otherwise.

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Right now, the biggest issue my sister have is how pushy men are with her, not 'commitment'. In general for the millenials, committed relationships are seeked by men more than women. My SO confirmed me that me not being a 'forceur' (pushy man) during our first date and showing interest in what she does was probably the biggest two reasons she proposed me the second one.

> Right now, the biggest issue my sister have is how pushy men are with her, not 'commitment'. I think it's a bit of both. I don't think a lot of women would care about the pushiness if it was with high commitment. It's a lack of commitment and pushiness that is what is uninteresting. I'm not finding any lack of women who love to completely go nuts on the escalation ladder of a relationship if a guy is high commitmen…

Ok, let me rephrase this: at least among women around my age or younger who don't seems care about commitment because a relationship is like the 4th item on their "to do" list, like ones who are pursuing a PhD or those seeking to build their business, pushiness seems to be way more of an issue than commitment.

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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> Right now, the biggest issue my sister have is how pushy men are with her, not 'commitment'. I think it's a bit of both. I don't think a lot of women would care about the pushiness if it was with high commitment. It's a lack of commitment and pushiness that is what is uninteresting. I'm not finding any lack of women who love to completely go nuts on the escalation ladder of a relationship if a guy is high commitmen…

Ok, let me rephrase this: at least among women around my age or younger who don't seems care about commitment because a relationship is like the 4th item on their "to do" list, like ones who are pursuing a PhD or those seeking to build their business, pushiness seems to be way more of an issue than commitment.

I think if you're looking at women who don't prioritize a relationship then okay but who cares about what they want? It's like trying to sell a Econovan to someone who wants a 911.

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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recently divorced I'm finding dating is so much harder these days...

I needed to grow up a lot, learn about situationships, attachment styles, co-regulation better emotional IQ, etc... things maybe I should've already known but not something taught....

I think schools should teach psychology classes that prepare people for being successful in relationships romantic, business, or platonic...

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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There was recently a spate of people getting shot (or shot at) for knocking on someone’s door, or pulling into someone’s driveway. (Someone inevitably being an older white man.) How do you develop a sense of community with people who behave that way?

Luckily most people don’t want to live like that. It’s true that people have lost a lot of their ability to socialize, but the kind of hate you’re promoting takes a lot more work. It’s tiring for everyone.

I have trouble imagining that anybody wants to live like that. And yet people do.

Re: The relationship recession is going global

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Ok, let me rephrase this: at least among women around my age or younger who don't seems care about commitment because a relationship is like the 4th item on their "to do" list, like ones who are pursuing a PhD or those seeking to build their business, pushiness seems to be way more of an issue than commitment.

I think if you're looking at women who don't prioritize a relationship then okay but who cares about what they want? It's like trying to sell a Econovan to someone who wants a 911.

> who cares about what they want?

People who want to date them? Or do you think men as well should prioritize seeking a relationship over their family, their friends and their jobs? Honestly i'd rather date women with balanced lives, then try to build onto that. Ultimately the relationship will become #1 for both of you (that happen with when the kid happen in my sample of 1).

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