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EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

victork2 has a very good point. There is a massive disconnect between the online nerd world and the offline non-nerd world. As a marketing strategy - and let me be clear, this is a marketing & people problem, not a technical one - you need to be able to reach the "Joe the Plumber" types. Someone who checks his facebook & email on the weekends, possibly forwarding glurge. Someone who does not own a smartphone, because…

Well, from my quick glance at the site, the league isn't aimed at "Joe User", but internet savvy "Lance Site-Owner" so they can show solidarity with the fight against evils to be yet illuminated by "Fight for the Future". Basically they are trying to institutionalize a network of "like-minded" internet activists; which will at least be interesting as a sociology experiment to see how it evolves and what kinds of reac…

Yes, but in order to move outside of the Lances, a different approach has to be developed. It needs not to be a geek-only campaign and instead needs to be a campaign that includes non-geeks.

Remember, most of the world are not geeks, and in a representative democracy, that means very few people in power are geeks. Geeks need to be able to communicate these socio-technical issues to non-geeks. I really hope that the Internet defence league works to communicate to the mainstream of the culture - the non-geeks - what's going on, because the mainstream is the primary driver of how we move politically (technically it's a feedback loop with the mass media playing a large part, but mainstream culture carries a large momentum and sway).

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Any idea on how this league will be governed? Does each participant vote on what should become actionable? Will it's governance be by elective representation?

Any idea on what it actually does? How does it detect "danger"? It seems more like an attempt to co-opt internet freedom movements than actually do anything at all.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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post #10
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Really? A giant cat?

It is not supposed to be a lobbyist. It is supposed to be a poltical movement. Its political marketing aimed at voters. It should target the type of teens on facebook, that you and i may look down upon. As far as im concerned, they dont even go far enough. We need a comic. We need memes. RESCUE MONORAIL CAT FROM THE CLUTCHES OF THE EVIL INTERNET HATE LEAGUE. FIRE UP YOUR MEMES AND BLAST THESE CORRUPT SENIORS OUT OF C…

I can't even tell if you're being sarcastic anymore. These "memes" are driving me crazy.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

Except that the target audience for this launch campaign is other website owners / webmasters, not the senate or the general populace.

I'm sure if they start doing anything in earnest for the general public the campaign materials will change.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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post #64

Too bad this seems very US centric...

If you're in the UK you could do a lot worse than join the ORG[1]. Maybe non-US resident HN'ers can co-opt this thread to post their own local feline alert movements.

[1] - http://www.openrightsgroup.org/

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