Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

Post by c0redump » Thu, Jan 09, 2025, 8:45 PM UTC

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> If a company exec is stupid enough to not hire when there has been no demonstrated replacement for the engineers, they are likely going to drive the company into the ground in short order. Who cares when they'll just float away on a golden parachute to the next company that will overpay them to make terrible decisions. Executives will happily jump at any excuse to lower wages, cut jobs, and pocket the money they sa…

What if a disgruntled software engineer shoots them in the back one day without warning??

Post by mring33621 » Thu, Jan 09, 2025, 11:12 PM UTC

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Internally they are allowed. There are internal productivity tools (IDE Plugins, APIs, Frameworks, Chat) with homegrown models (in the press) and the ability to switch to other models. The various models are integrated throughout the engineering tools and Slack.

So, uh, do you think they've driven productivity up 30%? ;) ;) ;)

Post by octacat » Thu, Jan 09, 2025, 11:37 PM UTC

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Stack, Zoom, Trello, Dropbox, Canva, Notion, AirTable.. Asana, Figma, Miro, Box, Evernote, ClickUp, Basecamp, Zapier, HubSpot, Calendly, Shopify, WordPress

This is also the stated rationale for Cloudflare’s generous free tier. They build loyalty with hobby and side projects, and engineers take that familiarity to work with them.

Post by bdangubic » Fri, Jan 10, 2025, 12:11 AM UTC

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Thanks for sharing some inside baseball. This definitely reads more like a “everything is going AWESOME ignore anything else you hear about us” PR-ese. I read this as messaging to shareholders more than anyone else (and sure some word-spreading about the product).

Yeah, it's just an ad for Agentforce. They have been aggressively advertising on TV lately. One ad shows a restaurant seating customers in the rain because they aren't using AI. The other ad shows someone buying clothes that don't match because AI wasn't suggesting them. (They also serve the customer shrimp, which he doesn't like.) Looking at weather forecasts and rescheduling reservations has nothing to do with AI,…

Post by cellis » Fri, Jan 10, 2025, 2:38 AM UTC

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FAANG used to over-employ not just due to ZIRP, but also in the fear that their engineers would build competing products. These companies enjoy healthy margins. Unemployed engineers can duplicate the core functionality and offer it for less.

>in the fear that their engineers would build competing products. Is there any evidence to support this? It would imply that even their least promising employees would still pose a threat which seems unlikely.