Marc Benioff says a lot of things. You would think they wouldn't have any software engineering job postings up if this were actually true.
Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
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Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
#32He will be hiring by Jan 15, 2025
Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
#33Current SFDC software engineer - this is just cover for a widespread engineering hiring freeze since the layoffs in January 2023. There's a ton of pressure to control costs after the near shareholder revolt that caused the layoffs.
The public nature of the announcement is certainly marketing for our AI offerings as well, but at this point I think most engineers are just worried there will be additional layoffs, in the event management cannibalizes product for short term stock gains again.
Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
#34《 And then, we will have less support engineers next year because we have an agentic layer. We will have more salespeople next year because we really need to explain to people exactly the value that we can achieve with AI. So, we will probably add another 1,000 to 2,000 salespeople in the short term.” 》 I guess they are building a saleforce at the expense of everything else !
Put in AI to justify saving on support staff. Then hire more people to convince customers the AI is actually just as good as speaking to a real human... It feels like mixed messaging about whether AI is actually good.
The classic tell, don't show.
Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
#35What exactly have they achieved with ai? What incredible progress has been made ? Does anyone know, I am genuinely curious.
AI has increased my productivity greatly, but it is a long way away from replacing my Job. Though maybe I am biased.
Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
#36How many of software devs working for Salesforce are outsourced in India or literal slaves working on H1B Visa?
Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
#37If there are productivity gains of 30% per engineer, doesn't it stand to reason that hiring more engineers would make the org even more productive?
This is like the opposite of 2021 where every tech company went on a wild hiring spree (remember how well that went?). Now in 2025 tech companies are just going to stop hiring anyone. I suspect by 2026 they will have a bunch of slop AI spaghetti code that no one can maintain. I'm starting to question whether this field is worth it anymore
Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
#38There won’t be massive ai layoffs. Companies will just stop hiring
I think this is already happening, the monthly HN "Who's Hiring" threads have felt like attending a funeral since Microsoft-Google-Twitter mega-layoffs two years ago.
How bad is the job market right now? Is it as bad as everyone says it is? Makes me pretty scared for the future, tbh.
Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
#39We've had two large tribes come to use from SalesForce and tell us all the issues they've had from no support to poor sales relations. My interactions with the support was just downright saddening. I cannot imagine having to do anything AI related with them. Also, most companies now can just build their own CMS with ease, SalesForce is not going to be around for long.
salesforce will be around forever. their purpose is to extract money. salespeople like to know that money is being spent on them because that's how they measure value, and will continue to demand salesforce for as long as it is expensive.
Oh so Oracle.
Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff
#40《 And then, we will have less support engineers next year because we have an agentic layer. We will have more salespeople next year because we really need to explain to people exactly the value that we can achieve with AI. So, we will probably add another 1,000 to 2,000 salespeople in the short term.” 》 I guess they are building a saleforce at the expense of everything else !
An LLM can't explain the value of Salesforce?