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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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“Corrective upvote” as a term is pretty hilarious — makes it sound like you think my vote is the correct one that will right the previous wrong the bozo downvoter. Utter solipsism. In 30 years of community moderation on the internet, I’ve never needed that term before. Thanks. Anyway, I want to talk to the people who somehow hate Canadians or who find the concept amusing. There are far more interesting ideas to be ha…

> makes it sound like you think my vote is the correct one that will right the previous wrong the bozo downvoter. Well yes, except for the definite article. Any upvote counteracts any downvote. If a downvote was bad then an upvote can be corrective by neutralizing its badness. I thought that was obvious, so it's interesting that you don't. > people who somehow hate Canadians or who find the concept amusing There's al…

Would you mind terribly un-flagging the above comment? Seems a bit excessive for a productive, well-intentioned thread such as this.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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I assume "tan suit" is referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_tan_suit_controve... I follow US politics regularly, but I hadn't heard of this so I don't know how well it's known... but it has it's own page so maybe I'm in the minority here.

I was definitely around and followed politics during the Obama administration, and I don't ever recall hearing a word about this. Probably big in some circles, unnoticed in others.

like Jade Helm and a lot of other agit-prop it was beamed at certain markets.

no one out of red states in the mid-west or south heard jack about "jade helm" but it stirred the pot for a while.

that's the whole point of ad-driven social media: you can target exact demographics at exact times. and it works, even here on HN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theori...

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Current canuck here. Since Trudeau has been elected the likelihood of purchasing a home or finding a job has drastically reduced and continues to fall. Rising tides raise all boats, given that the rent has risen everywhere too. This creates a divide between the have and have-nots of property ownership and public or private employment. This divides ends in the individuals who have are happy since their investment skyr…

Speaking as US citizen, what policies/legislation could Trudeau have reasonably enacted to alleviate the housing/job market? It's been pretty rough stateside as far as real estate goes, but it doesn't seem like a solution will materialize (that is to say, there's no solution that avoids hurting the wallets of the people in charge).

* limit immigration * limit foreign ownership of property; Canada is the best place to launder money in the world -- just buy Vancouver or Toronto real estate * direct investment in sectors of the economy that aren't oil & gas; e.g. not buying a huge pipeline * incentives to change zoning * changes to national laws around things like banking regulations and mortgages -- 30 year fixed rate mortgages like in the US aren't a thing in the CAN * initiatives to lesson other heavy impacts like higher cost of food, fuel, etc. some of these, like the Liberal's Daycare Subsidy were a good start

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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It's also easier to lie about what the current government has done wrong, there are no laws against it. You can just lie at a velocity never seen before on this planet, spread falsehoods via social media, breed outrage, spread conspiracies and then elected. It's disgusting.

From https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-the-first-bi... "The bitterness and rivalries seen in the partisan 1796 campaign got worse in the 1800 rematch between Adams and Jefferson. At one point in that race, Jefferson’s supporter, notorious pamphleteer James Calendar, claimed that Adams was a hermaphrodite, while Adams’ people said Jefferson would openly promote prostitution, incest, and adultery..."

It's a matter of how widely something is disseminated and how strongly it's reinforced. The question isn't what's the grossest propaganda you can find in the history of political campaigning, the question is what's the grossest propaganda you can find that gained wide acceptance.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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America is, especially since 2021 but nobody wants to believe it.

Have you ever tried talking to the people who don't believe it, and showing them what their own lives were like in 2021? Are you successful this way? Have you considered the possibility that the metrics we use to decide whether "countries are better off" don't match the values of their citizens ?

I think people that believe they were better off when they couldn’t go to the grocery store without a mask or thousands were dying of covid a day are delusional, frankly.

But it does sometimes work if you remind them.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Not sure why the parent comment is being downvoted. By most sources, the States has been the exception and not the rule post-pandemic. * https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/why-... * https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covi...

Because even HN, by nature, is still an incredibly US-centric place. And has historically been a very capital-focused place where the stock market and GDP are taken as the only serious indicators by which to measure whether a country is doing well. Both of these points have very slowly been changing here, but the downvotes show it's still largely the same. I spend my time between East-Asia and Europe, with one foot f…

There’s nothing wrong with America that would necessitate the gloom certain less informed quarters of the populace have. Nothing.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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America is, especially since 2021 but nobody wants to believe it.

Depends who you are, I guess. If you’re a young person who is not financially stable enough to form a family because of high housing prices, then you would disagree. If you’re a relatively well-off person with assets like real estate and equities, then you’re quite happy. It’s all a matter of perspective. I myself am doing quite well financially, but I am still quite unhappy with the current situation because of the…

Frankly a major skill issue. I know lots of people that have no problem doing that. These are state school and community college educated folks I went to high school with.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Is it me or does it seem like the internet era has taken away incumbent advantage and actually put incumbents at a massive disadvantage? I'm not here to attack or defend what Trudeau has actually done, only to posit the idea that once you become a leader in the political landscape there is a very effective machine whose only job is to attack you, personally, as much as possible anywhere you're perceived to be vulnera…

It works both ways. When Trudeau first took office, he was the meme of being Canada's young and handsome PM, and he enjoyed a good few years of "honeymoon" period that many leaders can only wish for. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=2015+justin+trudeau+handsome&df=20...

It does absolutely work both ways, but there's a non-incumbent advantage in that, until an opp emerges all the non-incumbent has to do is attack whereas the incumbent has to defend.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Depends who you are, I guess. If you’re a young person who is not financially stable enough to form a family because of high housing prices, then you would disagree. If you’re a relatively well-off person with assets like real estate and equities, then you’re quite happy. It’s all a matter of perspective. I myself am doing quite well financially, but I am still quite unhappy with the current situation because of the…

Frankly a major skill issue. I know lots of people that have no problem doing that. These are state school and community college educated folks I went to high school with.

What is a skill issue? It is not clear to me what your comment is referring to.
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