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Very excited for this, but a waste of energy if everyone is needing to process their video in real time.
What is the alternative? The results could be cached, but it's probably unlikely that they would need to be used again later, as I imagine most videos are watched only once. Another option would be to upload the generated subtitles to some service or p2p, but I believe that would also problem (e.g. privacy, who runs the service, firewalls for p2p, etc).
Previously, that was used for mp3 album covers or something?
AI subtitle generation seems like a useful feature. Hopefully they'll integrate with a subtitle sharing service so we don't have computers repeatedly duplicating work. In the ideal case you'd probably generate a first pass of subtitles with AI, have a human review and tweak it as needed, and then share that. There's no reason for people to be repeatedly generating their own subtitles in most cases.
You also want local generation in a lot of cases. If you have your own videos you need to generate them yourself. For Accessibility it's fantastic if they can have subtitles on every Video.
If generating your own is fast and good enough and takes little compute, then it isn't needed to share them. Having subtitles generated by the best models and optimized by humans is better, but not needed in most cases.
Very excited for this, but a waste of energy if everyone is needing to process their video in real time.
What is the alternative? The results could be cached, but it's probably unlikely that they would need to be used again later, as I imagine most videos are watched only once. Another option would be to upload the generated subtitles to some service or p2p, but I believe that would also problem (e.g. privacy, who runs the service, firewalls for p2p, etc).
https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ad...
and to their own servers:
https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ad...
should could fetch subtitles as the same time ?
edit: cf, what "a3w" says too.
There's an art to subtitling that goes beyond mere speech-to-text processing. Sometimes it's better to paraphrase dialog to reduce the amount of text that needs to be read. Sometimes you need to name a voice as unknown, to avoid spoilers. Sometimes the positioning on the screen matters. I hope the model can be made to understand all this.
There is no need for artistic interpretation, substituting words, or hiding information. If it’s in the audio, there’s no reason to keep it out of the subtitle.
An AI subtitle generator that takes artistic license with the conversion is not what anyone wants.
There's an art to subtitling that goes beyond mere speech-to-text processing. Sometimes it's better to paraphrase dialog to reduce the amount of text that needs to be read. Sometimes you need to name a voice as unknown, to avoid spoilers. Sometimes the positioning on the screen matters. I hope the model can be made to understand all this.
> Sometimes it's better to paraphrase dialog to reduce the amount of text that needs to be read Please no. Some subtitle companies do think like this, and it's really weird, like when they try to "convert" cultural jokes, and then add in a bunch of more assumptions regarding what cultures you're aware of depending on the subtitle language, making it even harder to understand... Just because I want my subtitles in Eng…
There's an art to subtitling that goes beyond mere speech-to-text processing. Sometimes it's better to paraphrase dialog to reduce the amount of text that needs to be read. Sometimes you need to name a voice as unknown, to avoid spoilers. Sometimes the positioning on the screen matters. I hope the model can be made to understand all this.
> Sometimes it's better to paraphrase dialog to reduce the amount of text that needs to be read Please no. Some subtitle companies do think like this, and it's really weird, like when they try to "convert" cultural jokes, and then add in a bunch of more assumptions regarding what cultures you're aware of depending on the subtitle language, making it even harder to understand... Just because I want my subtitles in Eng…
Very excited for this, but a waste of energy if everyone is needing to process their video in real time.
As another way to look at this, where does this questioning of energy use end? Should I turn off my laptop when I go to the supermarket? When I go to the toilet? Should I turn off my lights when I go to the toilet?
My point is, we do a lot of inefficient things and there is certainly something to being more efficient. But asking “is it efficient” immediately when something new is presented is completely backwards if you ask me. It focusses our attention on new things even though many old things are WAY more inefficient.