Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

Post by ethbr1 » Thu, Jan 09, 2025, 5:30 AM UTC

astine wrote: post #295

ethbr1 wrote: post #88

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Their ultimate agent product strategy feels like reducing cost of sales... by automating salespeople. I have doubts that will ever happen, but who knows? Sales folks are highly-compensated, so even making a few of them redundant (or making existing salespeople more efficient) would be a big win for companies (Salesforce's customers).

Salespeople are typically compensated based on commissions. At least the well compensated ones are. Automation can make things easier and streamline the sales process, but because the sales rep is paid a percentage of the GP of a sale, automation doesn't really their take.

Post by bigfatkitten » Thu, Jan 09, 2025, 5:34 AM UTC

linotype wrote: post #30

breckenedge wrote: post #16

Wonder if this will include Heroku? And do they mean no more hiring at all, or just no new positions?

Heroku is still a thing? I would have figured their lunch would have been eaten years ago with how expensive they were.

Post by mercurialsolo » Thu, Jan 09, 2025, 5:47 AM UTC

Post by ipaddr » Thu, Jan 09, 2025, 5:51 AM UTC

safety1st wrote: post #309

chii wrote: post #301

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While sales is true for large enterprises, in SME and lower ones, it's users' wants and value-for-money that dominate. This domination can lead to nowhere, but quite occasionally, it leaks out as users move jobs and into positions of "power" in the larger enterprise, and choose their familiar software instead of the existing/encumbent ones. Then these new startups get a foot hold, and become the dominant software, gr…

Very interesting, what are some good examples of this happening?

Post by fraserharris » Thu, Jan 09, 2025, 6:00 AM UTC

rawgabbit wrote: post #65

didgeoridoo wrote: post #48

I was at Salesforce for 4 years, and during those years the company made a massive deal about: 2020: the first AI craze, introducing “Einstein” as their name for their analytics platform, and officially changing the corporate vision to being the “No. 1 AI CRM company”. 2021: Now it’s all about “Customer 360”, i.e. account-based marketing, i.e. what basically everyone else does without such a memeable name. You wouldn…

Yeah. I got the evil eye when I told my company Genie aka Data Cloud is nothing more than a ETL and data warehouse for the different SF clouds. The SF director at my company went on a rant on how stupid I was. It was a déjà vu moment for me. I had SF and Microsoft account reps go ballistic when I informed my bosses of my opinion of their shitty products. https://help.salesforce.com/s/articleView?id=sf.c360_a_data_...