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Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

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Why would you jump to assuming that all the commenters and voters are bots just from encountering an unfamiliar acronym?

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It really wasn't, but it did assume the audience was familiar with a specific bit of discourse about, well, ZIRPs. In particular that when debt is super cheap, companies can afford to do a lot of things that would be stupid when capital comes at a higher price. Which generally seems to have been true about a lot of SV companies.

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Salesforce is a sales driven org. It’s hard for engineers (and essentially impossible for H1B’s) to replace that .

Given my exposure to the product and portions of it's userbase I -want- to call it a cult more than anything else, mostly based on years spent fucking around in the back end of one salesforce instance after another trying to get it to replicate functionality that I could have gotten online in an afternoon with a 2 page training document and a couple shared Google spreadsheets. I am clearly not in the target audience…

Dreamforce is basically a cult gathering.

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Everyone has to start somewhere, but if you don't know what ZIRP stands for you just don't have the fundamentals/haven't taken enough interest in economics to participate in a conversation related to macroeconomics and posting grumpy comments out of ignorance won't help you. You're going to have to read up on it. Although FWIW you probably aren't a bot, an AI would likely know all about ZIRP.

Yeah my knowledge of macroeconomics is lacking, can you recommend any books?

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I get the costs of engineering, but there's these sort semi antagonistic "yo we're not hiring software engineers" announcements that are weird. I don't ever see someone say "we're not hiring anymore customer support" or HR, or janitorial staff, or middle management.

It's not antagonistic to shareholders/investors who thought Salesforce was bloated before.

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They should hire English teachers to fix their grammar. “Will hire no more engineers.” Wtf

It's fine to say "X will hire no additional staff" or "X will remain asleep no longer". These are established phrasings in English.

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I have experience working with the Salesforce platform via the “Power of Us” program where nonprofits can get a discount and some free user licenses. It is interesting how much the platform has changed from the perspective of an “Admin”. I have frequently heard from others that compared to the past, it is much more difficult to for a staffer to implement it, especially if it’s not their primary role or they don’t have a technical background. Apparently there are failed implementations at for-profit customers too which sounds super odd considering how expensive it all is and the consulting partner ecosystem.

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They apparently paid $20 million for the use of Einstein's image: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-27/salesforc...

TIL that the likeness of Einstein was licensed. Proceeds go to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, which is fitting considering his support and investment: "Albert Einstein is one of the founders of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. To him, the university represented a combination of the commitment to his Jewish identity and his belief in the universal values of the pursuit of truth and respect for every human bein…

It’s sad they are so far off mission these days.

On the one hand, about 8% of their students are from Palestine. On the other, they’ve repeatedly retaliated against students and faculty members for protesting and making anti-genocide statements, and the university is on Boycott Divest Sanction lists.

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Part of their sales drive. We are absolutely assaulted by their sales reps trying to sell agentforce. They wine and dine non-technical executives and push the "ai agents will do everything" story. He is just reinforcing this narrative. Nothing to see here.

Plan is that others will need to hire expensive Salesforce consultants anyway. I don’t think they are getting rid of those people.

I feel the sudden urge to become certified as an Agentforce consultant
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