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Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

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Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

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Post by dalyons »

sfdcccthrow wrote: post #143
bb611 wrote: post #33

Current SFDC software engineer - this is just cover for a widespread engineering hiring freeze since the layoffs in January 2023. There's a ton of pressure to control costs after the near shareholder revolt that caused the layoffs. The public nature of the announcement is certainly marketing for our AI offerings as well, but at this point I think most engineers are just worried there will be additional layoffs, in th…

There is no company-wide hiring freeze, but there’s teams/products/etc… who have them. There’s other things going on though this will help spin. There’s no way that productivity metric includes the last 2-4 months.

what happened in the last 2-4 months?

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Post by downrightmike »

gruez wrote: post #140
bayarearefugee wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They never seem to talk about what happens when the the dream is ubiquitously realized and nobody is left to buy whatever it they are selling because their production expenses fund someone else's sales. At least it will be interesting to see which pushes civilization off the cliff first, end-game capitalism ouroborosing itself or the direct impact of climate change (which is obviously also related in any case).

>They never seem to talk about what happens when the the dream is ubiquitously realized and nobody is left to buy whatever it they are selling because their production expenses fund someone else's sales. "If we replace 95% percent of farmers with tractors, who's going to buy all the food that's being grown?"

More like "If 93% of people only have 7% of the wealth, and 12 guys have the 93% of wealth, how are we going to sell anything?!"

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Post by PaulHoule »

hedora wrote: post #251
PaulHoule wrote: post #236

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TRX won a lawsuit and you can't get one from Wal-Mart today https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/trx-obtains-federal...

These are between $20 and $250, but having many different band resistance levels is useful: https://gofit.net/collections/resistance-tubes-bands There are plenty of cheaper no-name options on Amazon, but they have the property that the handles snap off during use, risking injury.

TRX is a rigid band that doesn't stretch. You set the "resistance" by the angle of gravity relative to the band.

A TRX push-up puts less load on the primary path than a conventional push up but is very challenging to all the other muscles that it takes to not flop over when you do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNuZWO0if5o

These days I'd trust AMZN less than Temu. At least Temu and sellers on Temu still want to win your trust. AMZN thinks they have it and will still think they have it long after it's lost.

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Post by shadow28 »

i_love_retros wrote: post #250
echelon wrote: post #215

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FAANG used to over-employ not just due to ZIRP, but also in the fear that their engineers would build competing products. These companies enjoy healthy margins. Unemployed engineers can duplicate the core functionality and offer it for less.

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Why would you jump to assuming that all the commenters and voters are bots just from encountering an unfamiliar acronym?

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Post by roenxi »

i_love_retros wrote: post #266
shadow28 wrote: post #264

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Why would you jump to assuming that all the commenters and voters are bots just from encountering an unfamiliar acronym?

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Everyone has to start somewhere, but if you don't know what ZIRP stands for you just don't have the fundamentals/haven't taken enough interest in economics to participate in a conversation related to macroeconomics and posting grumpy comments out of ignorance won't help you. You're going to have to read up on it.

Although FWIW you probably aren't a bot, an AI would likely know all about ZIRP.

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Post by forgotoldacc »

spamizbad wrote: post #129
misiek08 wrote: post #126

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I thought Twitter fired 70% of manpower and still works?

It also lost 70% of its revenue.

That's less an issue of a lack of manpower and more the result of one person up top pushing everyone away. A less annoying owner could lay off 70% of the staff without gutting revenue.

Though Elon Musk's purchase of the company was entirely in his own self-interest, and unfortunately, it's serving him well so far. Buying a company for a fraction of his personal wealth and leveraging that into having the president as his personal servant is one of the greatest investments in American history.

Re: Salesforce will hire no more software engineers in 2025, says Marc Benioff

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Post by hedora »

mlinksva wrote: post #128
paxys wrote: post #58

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Let's not forget pre-2020 when the company released "Salesforce Blockchain", "NFT Cloud" and "Salesforce Web3 Platform". This is how they operate. Just one marketing hype moment after another. The actual product doesn't really matter (and in a lot of cases doesn't even launch). They just need to keep making pretty slide decks filled with meaningless buzzwords so their customers get distracted from the fact that they…

I wasn't sure whether "NFT Cloud" was real or parody so had to look it up. 2022 but it's in the official history https://www.salesforce.com/news/stories/the-history-of-sales... noted in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31666887

According to the numbers in that link, their nominal revenue per employee flattened out shortly after IPO up until it stops listing them in 2020.

I imagine getting that ratio up is important, especially with recent inflation.

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