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Apple Must Publish Notice Samsung Didn’t Copy IPad In U.K.

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Re: Apple Must Publish Notice Samsung Didn’t Copy IPad In U.K.

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And iPhone was in the works for 2.5 years before being revealed in public. Or maybe they just did everything betwwen Sep 2006 and January 2007?

So you think the LG Prada was designed and produced in a weekend?

You specifically claimed Apple aped it's design, soemthing anything with a brain would find laughable. Please keep making these ridiculous declarations.

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http://www.google.com/patents/USD504889?printsec=drawing#v=o... Yes, they effectively did. That design patent is what they've been using in force.

Rounded corners is just one element, full stop.

Your commentary is factious. No matter how you enunciate ponctuation to try and establish reason. That simply makes it look desperately void. And stop asking other users to downvote people you don't agree with, that is just silly.

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Why lie, man? Just to "prove" some point? The iPhone was first demoed by Steve Jobs in January of 2007, the LG Prada was demoed in December of 2006.

One photo is not a demo. LG Prada first publicly unveiled Jan 18, 2007. http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-samsung-f700-prada-phone-rum... Why call someone a liar man, just to prove some point?

"One photo is not a demo."

So, now we are just degenerating to ye olde "No True Scotsman" defense. Face it, dude. Apple imitated and you fell for it. You've been told now crawl away with some dignity.

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I don't understand how anyone can root for Samsung given Korean chaebol's long history of blatantly ripping off everything. Any research into the history of Samsung, Daewoo, LG will reveal a long line if copied products. Of course most if these products were only sold within Korea specifically because they knew what try we're doing would never pass muster on the international stage. Samsung is a dirty company. Do a l…

I think part of the reason why many people are rooting for Samsung here, is that in this community, in the field of competitive practices, copying is not frowned upon as much as litigating. There's no doubt that Samsung copied from Apple but blocking a whole product due to some parts being copied (like a green phone icon according to the page you linked) is arguably worse than the copying itself. After all, copying (…

Jobs would say copying. Stealing is reserved for those who recognise the artistry behind the idea and integrating it into the very soul of the new work; copying is the duplication of an idea without more than superficial regard for its true meaning or purpose.

Re: Apple Must Publish Notice Samsung Didn’t Copy IPad In U.K.

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post #71

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So you think the LG Prada was designed and produced in a weekend?

You specifically claimed Apple aped it's design, soemthing anything with a brain would find laughable. Please keep making these ridiculous declarations.

I don't care if Apple directly aped the LG Prada or not but do not come in here thinking you can fool people into believing that Apple just innovated the modern smartphone out of thin air. It didn't happen. The fact that similar looking phones to the iPhone hit the market first should give you a clue to that.

Re: Apple Must Publish Notice Samsung Didn’t Copy IPad In U.K.

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I don't understand how anyone can root for Samsung given Korean chaebol's long history of blatantly ripping off everything. Any research into the history of Samsung, Daewoo, LG will reveal a long line if copied products. Of course most if these products were only sold within Korea specifically because they knew what try we're doing would never pass muster on the international stage. Samsung is a dirty company. Do a l…

Copying a design is not necessarily illegal or "dirty". The benefits to consumers and society of companies mimicking each other can be huge.

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#77

I don't understand how anyone can root for Samsung given Korean chaebol's long history of blatantly ripping off everything. Any research into the history of Samsung, Daewoo, LG will reveal a long line if copied products. Of course most if these products were only sold within Korea specifically because they knew what try we're doing would never pass muster on the international stage. Samsung is a dirty company. Do a l…

> I don't understand how anyone can root for Samsung given Korean chaebol's long history of blatantly ripping off everything.

Maybe people want an iPhone sans all the DRM crap and Apple's censorship.

Re: Apple Must Publish Notice Samsung Didn’t Copy IPad In U.K.

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One photo is not a demo. LG Prada first publicly unveiled Jan 18, 2007. http://www.slashgear.com/iphone-samsung-f700-prada-phone-rum... Why call someone a liar man, just to prove some point?

"One photo is not a demo." So, now we are just degenerating to ye olde "No True Scotsman" defense. Face it, dude. Apple imitated and you fell for it. You've been told now crawl away with some dignity.

Hacker News commentary is turning into something I don't much care to read. (Including my own contribution here, ironcally.)

Re: Apple Must Publish Notice Samsung Didn’t Copy IPad In U.K.

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This is not a disjunctive syllogism. If Apple could not prove that Samsung copied them, it does not follow that Samsung didn't copy them, just as if California couldn't prove that OJ did it, it doesn't follow that he didn't do it. This ruling, that Apple has to affirm something equally unproven, is bizarre.

You have your requirements analysis all mixed up here.

Legal logic isn't the same as mathematical logic. The goal isn't to "prove" a fact here, it's to "settle" the fact so that people can go on with their lives. The courts pick boolean logic as their basis. So yes, legally, it is proven that Samsung did not copy Apple, no matter how many fancy-pants math terms you throw at them.

Re: Apple Must Publish Notice Samsung Didn’t Copy IPad In U.K.

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I don't understand how anyone can root for Samsung given Korean chaebol's long history of blatantly ripping off everything. Any research into the history of Samsung, Daewoo, LG will reveal a long line if copied products. Of course most if these products were only sold within Korea specifically because they knew what try we're doing would never pass muster on the international stage. Samsung is a dirty company. Do a l…

People cheer for Samsung because they like the design that Apple championed but they want it from a company other than Apple. And I see nothing wrong with that kind of cheering/rooting. Besides, being inspired by how the end-product should look like should hardly be considered "stealing" in technological terms. Unless Samsung really engaged in corporate espionage and stole engineering/manufacturing insights and ideas…

Lots of people "cheer for Samsung" because of the abject horror of watching a company try to shut down competition like this based on near-nonsense intellectual properties. We look at Apple's behavior and picture our products in the firing line.

Frankly I don't care much at all about Samsung. But I'm glad as hell they won.

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