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I "trust" Wikipedia more than I do fullfact and so on. They've all overplayed their hand.
You can not sue Wikipedia. You could sue facebook.
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Maybe, just maybe, it's because most people in the media are Democrats, and therefore inherently self-biased in their concerns and worldviews, and they have a belief that prevents any critical self-examination easily summed up by the Stephen Colbert line that: "reality has a liberal bias." You can't argue with someone who thinks their beliefs are merely "reality." At least the other side recognizes it as religion, et…
there is a huge difference between a belief and a fact. most of the discontent in today's world is this exact issue...
> there is a huge difference between a belief and a fact.
What if a fact is disputed? Do you not have to choose which fact to believe?
Gestalting between two disputed facts is the basis for scientific revolutions.
Ptolemaic astronomers certainly had a belief that epicycles were "fact" and made every non-scientific attempt to destroy heliocentrism. Only when enough people didn't _believe_ in that "fact" did we evolve to better understanding.
You can say "these were not facts and were just flawed observations", but you'll ignore that Ptolemaics _said_ these ideas were facts and had strong evidence and a belief that it really was.
This model can be applied over and over again to many domains. This isn't my idea, rather it comes from the seminal work "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" by TS Kuhn.
So, no, there is not a bold line between belief and fact. We choose what facts to believe.
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It's not about actual employees, it's about signalling "Texas - yay!" and "California - booooo!" in order to make good with the incoming administration.
Well, that and moderators being able to afford 1-bedroom apartments.
Says more about fb being penny pinching than anything. The kid working the panda express in california can afford a 1br apartment, why not a fb moderator?
Re: Ending our third party fact-checking program and moving to Community Notes model
#394It would be hilarious is somehow Elon/X claimed some kind of ownership or trademark or patent on the model.
Re: Ending our third party fact-checking program and moving to Community Notes model
#395I'd like to hear an informed take from anybody who thinks that Facebook's fact-checkers were a better product feature than Community Notes. All of the articles I'm seeing about this online are ideological, but this feels like the kind of decision that should have been in the works for multiple quarters now, given how effective Notes have been, and how comically ineffective and off-putting fact-checkers have been. The…
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"fact-checkers were authoritative source of the truth"
There is no such thing. If your understanding of truth is so flat, you're incredibly ignorant and dangerously foolish. Biases, perception, and propaganda influence the "truth" you see in the world. And no one is immune to it. Even large groups of very smart people are not immune to it. In fact they're even more often prone to groupthink.
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#397Regardless of what you think about this step I find it disconcerting that we can now disagree on facts. For example: - whether crime is up or down - whether the earth is warming or not - how many people live in poverty - what the rate of inflation is - how much social security or healthcare costs - etc These are all verifiable, measurable facts, and yet, we somehow manage to disagree. We always used to disagree and t…
most of those things are actually not verifiable measurable facts within any useful definition
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> I think this is a big win for Meta, because it means people who care about the content being right will have to engage more with the Meta products to ensure their worldview is correctly represented. Strong disagree. This is a very naive understanding of the situation. "Fact-checking" by users is just more of the kind of shouting back and forth that these social networks are already full of. That's why a third-party…
But "fact-checking" by people in authority is OK? Isn't that like, authoritarian? "Fact-checking" completely removed the ability for debate and is therefore antithetical to a functional democracy. Pushing back against authority, because they are often dead wrong, is foundational to a free society. It's hard to imagine anything more authoritarian than "No I don't have to debate because I'm a fact-checker and by that m…
Without some sort of controls in place, fact-checking becomes useless because it's subject to being gamed by those with the most time on their hands and/or malicious tools, e.g. bots and sock puppets.
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Some time around 2011, the Apple App store was warning me about rude words in the app description; unfortunately it was warning me about the German word "Knopf" which isn't rude. I think what happened is the English rude word list was translated into German, rather than just replaced with local rude words.
Button?
The word "knob" would also translate as "Knopf" in the sense of button, while also having a euphemistic meaning of "penis".
Re: Ending our third party fact-checking program and moving to Community Notes model
#400Regardless of what you think about this step I find it disconcerting that we can now disagree on facts. For example: - whether crime is up or down - whether the earth is warming or not - how many people live in poverty - what the rate of inflation is - how much social security or healthcare costs - etc These are all verifiable, measurable facts, and yet, we somehow manage to disagree. We always used to disagree and t…
The amount of crime is dependent on the police department reporting, which we know has been cut back