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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

JohnMakin wrote: post #183

I'm certain it will make parts of the user experience worse, but at least for the Threads app, this seems at least a little necessary - if you're aiming to be the "new" twitter or whatever social need twitter was fulfilling, you need to break free of the shackles of IG/Meta moderation, which is very unforgiving and brutal in very subtle ways that aren't always easy to figure out. But basically, I find a platform like…

The only people that would say this is unnecessary are the people that not currently being censored, and have no concept that they ever would be. Because they’re the Good People that think the Good Things.

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Post by nthingtohide »

EasyMark wrote: post #271
redserk wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Going back even further, one of the initial draws of Instagram pre-acquisition was that you could escape the toxicity of trolls and other socially unproductive behavior on Facebook. Meta has a big problem coming up. They'll get to the point where they won't be able to hide Facebook and Instagram's lackluster appeal. I suspect we'll start seeing advertisers peel away, followed by a few savvy investors first. Let's jus…

To me facebook seems a lot quieter but instagram is as busy with stuff as ever. We definitely have differences of opinion on that. Especially if TikTok is shut down (fingers crossed) most people will fall back on Instagram Reels.

They A/B test reels in facebook. My mother's facebook has reels in it. Not mine. Soon, the apps themselves will lose any sense of history and they will morph into whatever new content format is favourite. All you need is account with Meta. The content will find you. Zuck has that covered for you.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

matrix87 wrote: post #151

during the biden administration they were expected to shift their moderation policies to fit in with the political ideology currently in the white house now it's been normalized and the other party is doing it. but the news outlets have waited until now to start crying wolf?

>they were expected to shift their moderation policies to fit in with the political ideology currently in the white house

They were expected to? Hmm, hot take.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

ceejayoz wrote: post #64
philwelch wrote: post #44

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Just like complying with government censorship demands was about currying favor with the outgoing administration.

Like this! https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-tru... > When the White House called up Twitter in the early morning hours of September 9, 2019, officials had what they believed was a serious issue to report: Famous model Chrissy Teigen had just called President Donald Trump “a pussy ass bitch” on Twitter — and the White House wanted the tweet to come down.

Rollingstone makes up stories and is not a reliable source.

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Post by in_cahoots »

kamikazeturtles wrote: post #247
kelseydh wrote: post #190

It's funny how facebook got so political all the normies left, then they downranked political content so much that the political people left too. Facebook is a ghost town now.

Surprisingly, Facebook has 2.1 billion daily active users. I primarily use the app for its Marketplace feature as an alternative to Craigslist.

Doesn’t the second sentence explain the first? I can’t tell the number of times I’ve heard a variation of, “I hate Facebook [newsfeed]. I only use it for Messenger/ niche Groups/ local events/ Marketplace.”

Facebook has positioned itself so that it’s almost a necessity if you want to be involved in your community, however you define it. You may hate Zuck, moderation, and ‘the algo’ and yet you can’t get away from Meta the company. And millions of other users feel the same way.

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Post by philjohn »

theptip wrote: post #176
BryantD wrote: post #57

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This exactly mirrors my thoughts, although I don't work in your field. One quote: "For example, in December 2024, we removed millions of pieces of content every day. While these actions account for less than 1% of content produced every day, we think one to two out of every 10 of these actions may have been mistakes (i.e., the content may not have actually violated our policies)." That is first order data and it's in…

> However, before making policy decisions, I would want the second order data: I think this the wrong lens. The correct lens is: if they don't voluntarily make this change, will they be forced to? The incoming administration seems committed to banning "censorship", so I believe making a cost/benefit analysis is something of a false choice. E.g. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJfUXVOoFBo

That ignores the regulations in the EU, and the UK (coming into force this year), and also the huge volume of lawsuits they are facing in the US. Does everyone remember Zuck turning around to apologise to the parents in that senate hearing? Those parents must feel this is a slap in the face.

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Post by ceejayoz »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #304
ceejayoz wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like this! https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-tru... > When the White House called up Twitter in the early morning hours of September 9, 2019, officials had what they believed was a serious issue to report: Famous model Chrissy Teigen had just called President Donald Trump “a pussy ass bitch” on Twitter — and the White House wanted the tweet to come down.

Rollingstone makes up stories and is not a reliable source.

The claim was made in sworn testimony in a Congressional hearing by a Twitter executive.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/us/politics/twitter-congr...

On video, if you like: https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1623357770933145607

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

bhouston wrote: post #59
jjulius wrote: post #21

If you think this move exists in a vacuum or is actually about "getting back to their roots with free speech", you're wrong. Alongside Dana White joining the board[0], it's clear that this is solely about currying favor with the incoming administration. [0] https://www.npr.org/2025/01/06/nx-s1-5250310/meta-dana-white...

100%. It is about aligning with Trump's political opinions. Thus I do expect to see no fact checking of anti-trans, anti-vaccine and anti-immigrant content. But I don't think that Meta's documented censorship of Palestinian content [1] will change, because the censorship is inline with Trump's political opinions. [1] https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/meta-systemic-censorship...

Maybe it’s not Trump.

Maybe the people elected Trump in a historic GOP win with demos that Reagan wouldn’t have won with… and Zuck sees the writing clearer than most?

The way you put it leaves out the cause and only gets the effect.

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Post by stronglikedan »

tshaddox wrote: post #297
circlingthesun wrote: post #210

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I once posted a picture of an email stating my train was delayed in French. So the word 'retard' appeared in it. Instagram banned me from monetization or partnerships or something on my account, because the word for delay in French is offensive in English.

> because the word for delay in French is offensive in English It's also the word for delay in English.

It's also not offensive in English, even though some virtue signalers insist on taking offense to it.

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Post by quantadev »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #284
quantadev wrote: post #273

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The problem with "fact-checking" is that if it's done by humans at all then it will be heavily biased. With Silicon-Valley people being in charge of "fact-checking" for the past decade there's been countless examples of them doing mass cancellations calling things lies that we all know ended up being true.

> countless examples of them doing mass cancellations calling things lies that we all know ended up being true really? like what, exactly? please give concrete examples or this is just hot air

If you're wanting to claim that `Cancel Culture` never happened, then I'm afraid, at this point in history, the burden of proof is on you, not me. lol.
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