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Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by glonq »

dcchambers wrote: post #219

I think one thing few are willing to admit is that a large blame for this can be placed on disinterested parents. Parents that believe it is solely the school/teacher's job to educate their child. When kids are at home, parents should be involved in the learning process. You don't have to be a helicopter and monitor everything, but you should take interest in the work your child is doing. If you check in at least onc…

Having put three kids through the public education system, I can confidently say that the system is broken from top to bottom; comprised of students, teachers, parents, administrators, government, and taxpayers all striving to do their worst.

I would love to see how we could wipe the slate clean and totally re-invent what education in the 21st century could really be.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by toomuchtodo »

dcchambers wrote: post #219

I think one thing few are willing to admit is that a large blame for this can be placed on disinterested parents. Parents that believe it is solely the school/teacher's job to educate their child. When kids are at home, parents should be involved in the learning process. You don't have to be a helicopter and monitor everything, but you should take interest in the work your child is doing. If you check in at least onc…

Absolutely. Citations below.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40053774

https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/parents-under-pressu...

https://read.dukeupress.edu/demography/article/60/3/837/3520...

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/25/adults-no-children-why-pew-...

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by Mr_Bees69 »

greenavocado wrote: post #259
bilsbie wrote: post #223

I have this problem too! I wrote up this system prompt I want to set on my daughters account. You’re welcome to try using it and let me know it goes. (When I made a new chatgpt account for her it wouldn’t load. I need to try to set it up again) Prompt: This is my 9th graders account. She has been trying to avoid learning or even thinking by copy and pasting homework and quiz questions into chatgpt and not even readin…

Block websites. What is stopping you from whitelisting websites she can visit?

My mom tried that once, nearly bricked my computer by blocking arch's mirrors.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by dmos62 »

3good5me wrote: post #433
dmos62 wrote: post #243

The kid doesn't care at all about the problems she's asked to solve. I considered that normal until recently. Now I'm increasingly surprised that no one bats an eye that we're forcing kids to learn. Naturally that has little success. I heard someone say "adapt the lesson to the student's excitement, not the excitement to the lesson". I think that's a foundation for something wholesome, though, admittedly, I struggle…

At some point, you need to learn how to do things that are hard, or unpleasant, or just downright boring. Not everything can be a MrBeast video, that just isn't how life works. We're raising kids who can't just sit with their own thoughts; they need constant stimulation. But guess what? Long division isn't stimulating. Taxes aren't stimulating. Cleaning the kitchen isn't stimulating. But you need to do those things a…

I agree that doing hard things and character building has its place. I'm just not sure that basic arithmetic is that place. I like to think that a kid inherently has something more tangible to get excited about than dopamine-bomb videos, and I fear that we might help drive them away from that "tangible excitement" and into the soul-sucking distractment, if we force them to learn without regard for that tangible and genuine excitement.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by Mr_Bees69 »

qwerpy wrote: post #445
fivelorn wrote: post #412

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Who knew it was this easy? Thank you, citizen.

Unironically is it that hard? I managed to not impregnate anyone until I met my wife in my 30s. Likewise for her. Likewise for many of my friends. Getting unintentionally pregnant is not a common event in my circles. You apply basic biology knowledge and protection and if all else fails there are multiple ways to “fix” the issue before it gets to the point where a baby is born.

Man, im in SD, health education here is dire, like there's one line about prevention in a massive slideshow, and nothing else. And assuming that teens just wont is simply delusional.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by Mr_Bees69 »

casey2 wrote: post #372
dcchambers wrote: post #219

I think one thing few are willing to admit is that a large blame for this can be placed on disinterested parents. Parents that believe it is solely the school/teacher's job to educate their child. When kids are at home, parents should be involved in the learning process. You don't have to be a helicopter and monitor everything, but you should take interest in the work your child is doing. If you check in at least onc…

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TTS sucks and is slower than reading, dont even get me started on STT. Also, jesus christ, we got on to hitler FAST.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by HaZeust »

bdhcuidbebe wrote: post #462
HaZeust wrote: post #363

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GPT is blunt, critical, and highly opinionated if you tell it to be. That's what I don't get about people on this forum. GENERATIONS of STEM professionals who have it engraved in their head that a computer will only do what you tell it to - and nothing more, and they still don't think to simply just tell GPT what lens they want it to view content in, or give it accurate and necessary directives. They think it'll hand…

> I don't get where the disconnect is. Some of us are not satisfied with 73% accuracy.

You're probably close to the same in everyday life - as are everyone around you, but I suppose that's valid.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by magimas »

datavirtue wrote: post #387
magimas wrote: post #291

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one of the more important ones in my opinion would be a prompt to make ChatGPT much less agreeable. Unless explicitly asked for, it never really challenges your observations and will just keep being supportive and telling you how well of an argument you're making. I fear this will push even more people into deep rabbit holes they won't be able to get out of because they think this neutral AI has confirmed their suspi…

I know, when we discuss physics it has me feeling like I'm Stephen Hawking-Einstein.

yeah that's actually what I was thinking about. I have a PhD in physics, so I easily notice when ChatGPT just keeps agreeing with me even though we're on very shaky ground. But I worry about the times it does this when we're talking about stuff I'm not as knowledgeable about.

And you can see the influx of people on r/physics and the like who are convinced they've solved dark matter/quantum gravity/... because ChatGPT kept agreeing with them when they presented their ideas to it. Just recently there was a post by a guy who essentially "rediscovered" 17th century physics with the help of ChatGPT but was convinced his formula would explain dark matter because ChatGPT told him so.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by FloNeu »

Well... how about you don't let your little sister use chatgpt to do her homework? If you think it fries her little brain the responsible thing as a big brother is to buy her a little bit of lsd to microdose and counteract the damage you have already done, right?

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Post by Pet_Ant »

laylower wrote: post #464
Pet_Ant wrote: post #313

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I don't know how that helps. Watching TV with my kid has been the best way to teach him I've found. There are great videos and shows that you can watch together and then discuss afterwords. Baking videos. Chemistry. Physics. History. Seeing something on TV is great way to fire up the imagination and inspiration for real world activities.

Could you recommend a few? I've found I need to very heavily curate these for my 6yo

For a 6 year old I'd start with

The Action Lab AntsCanada BizarreBeasts HowToMakeEverything PrimitiveTechnology TierZoo

but we've more moved onto

AlphaPhoenix BPS Space NileRed PBS Space Time Periodic Videos Veritasium

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