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Post by janalsncm »

kepano wrote: post #308
jjk166 wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a farmer stops showing up to a farmers market, no one is going to go to their farm for their specific carrots when there are other carrot farmers at the market. Even if they have the best carrots, that doesn't mean their carrots are sufficiently better to justify the added hassle. If their livelihood comes from the customers at the farmer's market, they need to keep their stall at the market.

Sure. This aligns with my original point. A farmer owns their land (mostly). The farm is the farmer's canonical source for their product. Farmers don't typically rely on a single farmer's market to sell their product, they participate in many markets, sell wholesale, sell from their farm, and might also have a direct-to-consumer option where they can ship beyond their locality. Create once, publish everywhere — your…

A business doesn’t stop being viable only once every source of income is stamped out. It stops being viable when enough of it is gone, because people weigh continuing the business against the opportunity cost of doing anything else.

Also, many creators already are publishing “everywhere”. YouTube is simply the most profitable. If YouTube income goes away, that ends the business, whether or not it can technically be found elsewhere.

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Post by hiccuphippo »

hooverd wrote: post #116
wil421 wrote: post #5

The year is 2030. After the AI bot wars, FaceBook and Google have been crippled. They let AI automation control their content and it was deleted after OpenAI GPT10 discovered vulnerabilities in automated copyright strikes. Taco Bell won the franchise war and is the only restaurant remaining.

Ok, how /do/ the three seashells work?

2 are bidets, 1 is a drier.

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Post by Habgdnv »

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #52
ysavir wrote: post #21

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Wouldn't this mean that the only people able to make claims in the first place are people with $1M to spare? It might deter aggressive claims, but also prevent individuals from making claims on violations of their copyrights.

I think it's Finland where if the punishment for a crime is a fine, the fine scales with the income of the perpetrator. I like that system.

You remember correctly. Nokia CEO got a speeding ticket for 116K euro 20 years ago was in the news.

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Post by Brian_K_White »

reaperducer wrote: post #256
soulofmischief wrote: post #224

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People can use whatever words they please. Never mistake yourself to be the arbiter of language, which is ever evolving.

Never mistake yourself to be the arbiter of language Isn't that exactly what you just did?

nope

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Post by avianlyric »

mjburgess wrote: post #259
krapp wrote: post #147

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https://www.techdirt.com/2020/06/23/hello-youve-been-referre... Section 230 does not require that a plaform be neutral.

I think this misunderstands the sense in which 230 is at issue. It's not that 230 itself requires anything --- it's that its a law in place at the whim of lawmakers who granted it expecting a certain sort of behaviour. The relevant claim is, "if youtube doesn't behave more neutrally, expect one side of the political divide to elect people who will make it". This is how the intention of the law is currently read: that…

> if youtube doesn't behave more neutrally, expect one side of the political divide to elect people who will make it

There have been plenty of threats by various politicians already, to enforce “neutrality” on entities like YouTube. But a couple of persistent issues keep rearing their ugly heads.

1. How do you determine “political neutrality”? The only way to be truly neutral is to do zero moderation of any content, and nobody is seriously suggesting that’s a good idea.

2. On what basis could YouTube be ruled a utility? If even ISPs aren’t considered utilities, then how on earth can YouTube be a utility? Utilities are services that generally considered as a basic requirement for participating in civil society. It not clear how anyone could consider YouTube such an essential service.

> Thus the "well, actually!" objection to a narrow reading of the principle of free speech is really the one which misunderstand the principles at play and the evolving legal and social understanding of mass-participation online platforms.

In the U.S. such a reading of the first amendment, and the principle of free speech, has been consistently and repeatedly upheld by U.S. courts. Law makers can’t legislate their way around that, they would need to literally change the U.S. constitution. Something that requires a 2/3 majority in both congress and the senate, plus 3/4 of all state legislatures need to ratify it as well. For better or worse, the U.S. constitution provides no flexibility for the “evolving legal and social understanding of mass-participation online platforms.”

An environment where the U.S. government (and specifically the U.S. government) starts engaging in such aggressive regulation of entities like YouTube, is so distant from current state of free speech in the US, that’s it’s a practically useless argument to consider. So much of the political, legal and social framework of the U.S. will have changed, that it would effectively be an entirely different country and culture to what exists today.

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Post by mulmen »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #315
mulmen wrote: post #309

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What other use of literally is there?

Were you not aware what hapoened to the word several years ago?

Malort implied butlersean’s use of literally is incorrect, which it doesn’t appear to be.

I am aware that groaning about incorrect usage of literally is a meme but that seems to also require being wrong about the usage being incorrect.

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Post by daveguy »

pakitan wrote: post #213
daveguy wrote: post #190

Just a friendly heads up. Anyone who wants to avoid Twitter, since it has become so toxic, can use the domain xcancel.com in place of twitter.com or x.com. like so: https://xcancel.com/3blue1brown/status/1876291319955398799 This links to independent Nitter to provide a full thread.

"For anyone who wants to avoid Twitter's toxicity, here is how you get some Twitter content" :)

Unfortunately some companies and content creators still post there. It's a good way to find what the subject is about to identify external sources. So you can participate in less toxic discussions like on HN.

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Post by brokenmachine »

ars wrote: post #240
VyseofArcadia wrote: post #52

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I think it's Finland where if the punishment for a crime is a fine, the fine scales with the income of the perpetrator. I like that system.

So you're saying that if I'm rich and I want to speed I hire a driver with no money and quietly cover the fine for him? I've always wondered about this loophole in that system.

That's a ridiculous loophole to wonder about... but if it happens at scale and becomes a problem, then they could write another clause into the law.

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Post by dredmorbius »

"Be a property owner and not a renter on the Internet"

https://den.dev/blog/be-a-property-owner-not-a-renter-on-the...>

HN discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlcDHlK_RoY>

If you keep working on Maggie's Farm, you'll keep encountering Maggie's rules.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie%27s_Farm>

Rely on YouTube for distribution, for now, but build a home base (or bases) elsewhere which you can fall back on.

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