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It's not a partisan issue. The Charter is pretty clear on the limitations placed on protests. If those truckers had dispersed within a day they would have been fine. But they were accepting donations and foreign money in order to stay encamped and had no intention of dispersing.
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> address a virus that in no way constituted an emergency
100s of thousands hospitalised. 60k dead. And that is with lockdowns.
Seems like an emergency to me.
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The USA is great when you're working age and are healthy. Outside the 18-65 age range, not so much. I hope Canada will not morph into USA-lite.
Is it because people outside of 18 and 65 don't have to pay rent or a mortgage? Also one of the often touted benefits of Canada to US is the public healthcare system, but after 65 most people are on Medicare which is adequate and under 25 generally under your parents insurance. Genuinely curious whats better under Canadian system for the young and old.
> Genuinely curious whats better under Canadian system for the young and old.
The young, old, and those too unhealthy to work full-time. And to answer your question: a better social safety net, IMO.
Edit: Because this topic is flamebait, I'm preemptively declaring that I'm not going to argue about my opinion. YMMV.
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lol this incredible hyperbole begs for explanation. The two main fumbles I can see of note are on housing and immigration. On immigration the government only made remarkable changes in the last two years, and as if they touched a hot stove, they already realized their mistake and have already scaled back immigration numbers so much that Canada will effectively have nil immigration for the near future. Not likely a ge…
One major change that happened with immigration is that the provinces (particularly - but not exclusively - Ontario) slashed funding for schools and encouraged them to make up for it by profiting off of a near infinite supply of foreign students.
Education is a provincial responsibility; the feds basically rubber stamped student visas, under the assumption that provinces were to be trusted for only accrediting responsible schools; schools that would import the best and brightest from around the world and train them to be valuable contributors to the country. That assumption faltered - instead, private strip-mall colleges began bringing in absolutely anybody with a pulse who could pay sky-high foreign tuition fees. Conestoga College in Kitchener-Waterloo, most notoriously, increased their foreign student enrollment by ~1500% - to nearly 30,000 students, 3/4 of the student population - putting enormous pressure on the city (which is not a very big city).
I think it's fair to blame the Libs for being asleep at the wheel while this happened, but I wish more ire was directed towards the provinces for this.
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This is the crux of the issue honestly. Trudeau should have had the humility to read the writing on the wall in the fall, and stepped down so we could have a stable government to deal with the incoming US administration and give his party a fighting chance next election. He could have rested on his laurels knowing history would likely forget his shortcomings & scandals, and be remembered as the prime minister who got…
Here's the primary problem with your argument: the current front-runner to win the next election is the Conservative Party of Canada, with Pierre Poilievre as leader, and pretty much a shoo-in for the next Prime Minister. Poilievre is a career politician who's only professional experience has been as a politician, has no work history to speak of (don't take my word for it, his wikipedia entry details only a job as a…
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> effectively holding our economy hostage This is what a protest is. (French here). If protesters go as far, and in Canada it was because you did them dirty, then you must sit at a table and negotiate. You must sit at a table and negotiate with everyone in a country. You cannot do someone dirty then complain that they protest. It’s effects removing the right to protest, and therefore, removing democracy itself. Go li…
Not a Canadian, but no, a protest protests and gives voice to the disagreement. Blocking other people's rights is not just a protest and is likely to trigger action to protect others. That's how it goes everywhere that has rights. Normally, some effort is made to do it peacefully, but there are no countries where you can halt the economy whenever you want to force people to negotiate with you.
I mean, this is the French way. SNCF striking (a yearly occurrence) is arguably halting the economy each time it happens.
As a sympathizer to the HK protests, I've heard all these talking points before -- that the protesters are ruining the economy and making things miserable for everyone. Usually the protests can really only get so big when there is a shared grievance that keeps getting ignored by the administration.
In the case of HK, the grievance was the possibility for criminals to be extradited to Chinese mainland.
In the case of convoy protests, the grievance was the vaccine mandate in order to work a trucking job that's mostly solitary with minimal human contact.
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Non-immigrant Canadians will have to change their living expectations and use housing more effectively (density). Or perish. When I was university-aged, all of my asian and indian international student friends were living like 11-14 people to an apartment.
I thought immigrants were here to save the economy. Why does everyone need to scale back to living like college students then?
Well, they are.
By scaling back and "living like college students" (living like families in most of the world except the US & Canada), they're going to be the only groups of people who have any buying power to buy new homes when they finally get constructed. Meanwhile y'all will continue bitching and moaning about how fucked you are while the immigrant generation laughs their way to comfortable retirement and a better future for their children in your country.
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