Ad people also don’t even care about best practices. Many times years ago we’d see multi meg static banner ads. The situation isn’t better today, massive gifs are still used in place of video.
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#142A lot of web pages only work for me on my iPhone if I use reader mode. Otherwise, the page keeps resetting over and over again. Firefox, but I assume Safari is probably the same, since Apple mandates they all be based on WebKit.
Pages are often unresponsive or don't fully load. Zooming breaks so many sites. I'm always closing Safari and re-loading pages.
Are the web developers ignoring Safari? They can't be.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
The internet as you know it is the value you get out of ads. You may hate ads, we all do, but at least recognize the hand that feeds you. The alternative is subscriptions for everything, and as far as I can tell that is far less popular than the ad model we have.
> The internet as you know it is the value you get out of ads. I disagree. The value I get from the Internet is almost entirely from non-ad-driven sources. The ad-driven stuff is very low value to me.
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#144AFAIK, a lot of mobile ad blockers work by proxying your traffic through their servers. There may be more, but the only one I know works totally local is Firefox Focus. You can install it, set it as the ad blocker for iOS Safari and never actually use it as a browser. It’s not 100.0% effective. But, it makes a big difference with minimal hassle.
My solution is a PiHole instance at home, combined with a split tunnel WireGuard connection to route my phone's DNS queries through it while I'm on the go. It's completely app- and platform-agnostic.
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#145It's immoral that you cannot turn off videos in a browser and/or that this isn't the default option on phones.
It can't be set as default because most people are used to spam ads. Heck, most people seek them on tictok
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#146Re: Ads chew through half of mobile data
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
The internet as you know it is the value you get out of ads. You may hate ads, we all do, but at least recognize the hand that feeds you. The alternative is subscriptions for everything, and as far as I can tell that is far less popular than the ad model we have.
> The internet as you know it is the value you get out of ads. I disagree. The value I get from the Internet is almost entirely from non-ad-driven sources. The ad-driven stuff is very low value to me.
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#148Maybe the ISP should start charging the ad network instead of the user for ad traffic. Then they can start blocking the ads of people who don't pay. The user, who pays for the service, is getting no value out of the ads and the advertiser is freeloading the ISP's technical infrastructure and userbase.
That sets a terrible precedent. You do not want ISPs picking and choosing what content to deliver, or forcing content providers to pay extra to deliver content to their customers.
[1] https://www.nexttv.com/news/netflix-ceo-some-big-isps-extrac...
[2] https://epicenter.works/en/content/data-toll-deutsche-teleko...
Re: Ads chew through half of mobile data
#149Maybe the ISP should start charging the ad network instead of the user for ad traffic. Then they can start blocking the ads of people who don't pay. The user, who pays for the service, is getting no value out of the ads and the advertiser is freeloading the ISP's technical infrastructure and userbase.
The internet as you know it is the value you get out of ads. You may hate ads, we all do, but at least recognize the hand that feeds you. The alternative is subscriptions for everything, and as far as I can tell that is far less popular than the ad model we have.
The ad-funded content and services are almost universally low quality and designed exclusively to hack brains to keep them scrolling, not provide real value. What few exceptions there are to this rule are not worth the enormous drain on society that the ad-funded model has been.
> and as far as I can tell that is far less popular than the ad model we have.
This is a classic market failure. Corporations have figured out how to manipulate people into pursuing the corporation's interest (scroll indefinitely through pages and pages of ads and spend money on the things so advertised) at the expense of the consumer's interest (do anything else with their time and money). Popularity is irrelevant when it's clearly achieved by exploitative design, not value delivered.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The internet as you know it is the value you get out of ads. I disagree. The value I get from the Internet is almost entirely from non-ad-driven sources. The ad-driven stuff is very low value to me.
you never used google search? if not you should check it out - it is not bad - https://www.google.com