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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by ethbr1 »

tsimionescu wrote: post #547
jlebar wrote: post #525

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A human burns say 2000 kcal / day. That's about 2.3kW hours / day. An iPhone 16 pro battery appears to have about 18 watt hours. So approximately 100x less then a human uses.

Oops, you're right, I misremembered some basic facts here...

I remembered there was some analogy about a person doing some work walking, with an average diet, versus using an internal combustion engine. In terms of carbon emissions.

The engine came up more favorably.

Turns out, eating any meat and industrial agriculture transportation are really heavy.

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Post by ethbr1 »

nradov wrote: post #557
ethbr1 wrote: post #482

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That's one reason (among many) the preexisting condition part of ACA is so important. Without it, health insurance companies would have every incentive to do what car insurance companies do -- buy profiles and records from third parties and use those to adjust rates and willingness to insure. E.g. the obvious step of buying genetic information from 23andme, because it isn't covered by HIPAA

GINA prohibits health insurance companies from using genetics to deny coverage or set premiums. https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/special-topics/g...

I'd feel a lot better with customer-centric privacy protections around the collector and storer, a la HIPAA.

Instead of regulating only some of the uses.

HHS already had to administratively extend to cover gaps (we'll see how that goes, post-Chevron) and Congress attempted to repeal it for workplace purposes in 2017.

And there's still the gray market question about 23andme -> Equifax-alike packaging it into a blended proprietary risk score -> insurance companies using that (of course 'without knowing that genetic information was included').

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by notavalleyman »

int_19h wrote: post #477
notavalleyman wrote: post #385

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I'm not sure if you're joking but your comment expresses it backwards - according to the op article, meta made 28 such bots. One of those bots had the insta profile tagline "queer black mom". In between meta's creation of the 28 and the story arriving on your dinner plate, someone decided to focus the coverage on that one of 28. They thought it would be interesting to people and clearly were right

What they're saying is that the odds of such a combo are far less than 1 in 28 IRL.

How did you determine that?

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Post by brookst »

Rastonbury wrote: post #325
brookst wrote: post #127

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So you fact checked this comment before posting, right? Because I am deeply interested if this was hallucination or used RAG and web search to provide the answer, but I can’t tell if you just chose to hallucinate without grounding.

Come on why would anyone put the team's races into RAG or anywhere under the hood lol

Does it seem outlandish that there might have been a press article about the team?

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Post by ranger_danger »

ethbr1 wrote: post #561
tsimionescu wrote: post #547

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Oops, you're right, I misremembered some basic facts here...

I remembered there was some analogy about a person doing some work walking, with an average diet, versus using an internal combustion engine. In terms of carbon emissions. The engine came up more favorably. Turns out, eating any meat and industrial agriculture transportation are really heavy.

This sounds like a false equivalency to me... why are you comparing humans and their support networks... but the engine doesn't also get the same comparison? What about the factories that make them for example? All the gas station infrastructure etc.?

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Post by vjk800 »

crmd wrote: post #290
tomalaci wrote: post #186

You know what AI profiles I want more of? Clueless grandma/grandpa that accepts scammer calls and waste their time. Such as UK's O2 Daisy: https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/o2-unveils-daisy-the-ai-gra...

There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

The real fun starts when they start writing the insurance contracts that are only meant to be readable by ML algorithms. Imagine thousands (millions?) of contract pages written in practically incomprehensible language, designed by an ML algorithm to contain clever loopholes that are difficult to detect by an adversarial algorithm.

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Post by motohagiography »

PKop wrote: post #318
motohagiography wrote: post #251

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this misunderstands what fiction is. for people with the capacity, it's a tool for reasoning about hypotheticals and counterfactuals. sometimes its fun, but mostly it's serious. for the people who get it fiction is a public discourse about possibilities. to me seeing it as arbitrary would be like watching golf and thinking it's random. there's a literal mindedness or incapacity for abstraction I can't apprehend in th…

>for the people who get it Yea I love fiction. I certainly get it. You should think this way about a particular thing because this one movie portrayed it that way, and if you don't it's because you forgot that this movie portrayed it that way according to its creators will, thoughts, ideas, motivated reasoning, worldview, whatever...is not compelling. It's pretty obvious to me that the creative choices and ideas of c…

you've found a way to use dinosaur DNA in eggs to genetically engineer a medium sized dinosaur back into existence. you've got a bunch of samples in your apparatus, and you go away and come back to find out they've hatched and disappearared.

someone says to you, at least the fences will keep them in. and you say, "what fences?" and when they say, "didn't you see jurrasic park?" your answer is, "why would I see that, it's fiction, and who cares it's just a 90's kids movie"

that's how dumb I'm saying this release was.

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Post by namaria »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #196
namaria wrote: post #102

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That's the price for Mr Zuckerberg's ownership structure. On the one hand, no one can dispute him. On the other hand, no one can dispute him.

I dont think it is reasonable to think shareholders would be vigilant safeguard on these types of R&D programs. They simply aren't that involved.

Between shareholders and executives there's usually a board. Corporate governance is not simple and it is designed to control large organizations with several stakeholders. Appointing executives alone, in a well functioning corporation, is a complex affair.

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NicholasGurr wrote: post #140

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Post by weebull »

sangnoir wrote: post #431
baxtr wrote: post #357

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I wonder why so few companies employ Pixar’s Brain Trust method. You get into a room with a bunch of key execs who are not part of your project and then they tear your product/movie/idea apart. You don’t have to implement any of their suggestions but since these are seasoned execs they see flaws readily. The key is that the process encourages candid feedback without hierarchy or defensiveness. This goes on for a coup…

> I wonder why so few companies employ Pixar’s Brain Trust method It doesn't scale. That model hasn't been utilized at Pixar lately - whatsm was the last good/hit Pixar movie that wasn't a sequel or side-quel? Like most companies, Pixar relies on a few great products or ideas, and then doubling/tripling down on them, to make sure the graph grows up and to the right for shareholders.

Mainly because they ousted Lassiter for being to critical of the crap that was being put in front of him. They framed it in other ways publically, but I'm pretty sure he was getting in the way of others taking the company in a direction that didn't prioritize quality.
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