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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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This is coming and there's a very simple fix. Make healthcare insurance be actual insurance: as in, not a gateway to treatment conditions that are entirely lifestyle driven. Once patients are responsible for the bill and the large middle layer admin crud is taken off the table, medical inflation almost disappears. Take this example of a for-profit facility vs non-profit hospitals [1] Ideally this happens once environ…

How do you delineate between conditions that are "lifestyle driven" and not? When you develop a problem with your body it doesn't come with a receipt listing the cause. I've personally had postural issues that were for many years simply attributed to poor discipline. It later turned out that I have a connective tissue disorder that was destroying the joints in my body. All you I can see your proposition doing is givi…

You don't, but you provide lower insurance prices to those who can demonstrate a healthy lifestyle.

You wouldn't even need too much surveillance to do this. Give people a yearly "fitness checkup" to encourage physical exercise, monitor weight to encourage healthy eating habits, do periodic drug tests to discourage drug use etc.

If you combined this with a (privacy preserving) fitness band that would monitor your vitals, and only send a list of premiums you're eligible for, you could do even better.

You'd have to account for preconditions that make it hard/impossible to exercise, but this would work for most people.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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It’s so bizarre to me that this uniquely US phenomenon of for-profit-middlemen inserted into the healthcare system has resulted in an adverserial relationship between the sick person and the “healthcare provider”. I put that air quotes because insurance companies don’t actually provide health care. They provide insurance. That’s a financial product, not a medical one.

> That’s a financial product, not a medical one. It often goes unsaid, but America, on a cultural and political level, is really ideologically fixated on a distinction between working and non-working individuals, and, in a far deeper sense, whether an individual "deserves" healthcare or not. This makes access to healthcare intricately connected to class, wealth, and income, in America. That's why access to healthcare…

Be aware that in many single-payer systems, insurance is also tied to working (or unemployment / retirement / pensions).

In my opinion, this is actually the reason for why we have so little innovation in Europe.

Mandatory, single-payer insurance very significantly raises the cost to be self-employed / have a sole proprietorship, which you practically need to run any side project that you want to eventually make money from. This means that if you launch a startup, you either need it to be profitable on day one, or you're vasting significant amounts of your money, not just your time.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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How do you delineate between conditions that are "lifestyle driven" and not? When you develop a problem with your body it doesn't come with a receipt listing the cause. I've personally had postural issues that were for many years simply attributed to poor discipline. It later turned out that I have a connective tissue disorder that was destroying the joints in my body. All you I can see your proposition doing is givi…

Medical authorities make a list, and people applying for insurance answer lifestyle questions like "do you smoke?", "do you exercise?" etc and they have an initial exam. It's not that hard. In the example you've given you could sue the doctors for misdiagnosis, or if research showed that a condition had been mislabelled, people would receive compensation. It doesn't seem any more onerous than any of the other negotia…

I believe it’s pretty widely accepted that some component of addiction and substance abuse is genetic / hereditary. The same is true of depression.

I personally feel uncomfortable labeling these as lifestyle choices to drop insurance liability. Alcoholism isn’t really the same as skiing.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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How do you delineate between conditions that are "lifestyle driven" and not? When you develop a problem with your body it doesn't come with a receipt listing the cause. I've personally had postural issues that were for many years simply attributed to poor discipline. It later turned out that I have a connective tissue disorder that was destroying the joints in my body. All you I can see your proposition doing is givi…

You don't, but you provide lower insurance prices to those who can demonstrate a healthy lifestyle. You wouldn't even need too much surveillance to do this. Give people a yearly "fitness checkup" to encourage physical exercise, monitor weight to encourage healthy eating habits, do periodic drug tests to discourage drug use etc. If you combined this with a (privacy preserving) fitness band that would monitor your vita…

Any actual, real-world implementation of such a thing would 1) not be privacy preserving (except in the "we pinky promise we're not going to use this data!" kind of deal), and 2) would inevitably expand the definition of "unhealthy lifestyle" over time as a way to exclude undesirables from the system and thereby leave more resources for those who remain.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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> That’s a financial product, not a medical one. It often goes unsaid, but America, on a cultural and political level, is really ideologically fixated on a distinction between working and non-working individuals, and, in a far deeper sense, whether an individual "deserves" healthcare or not. This makes access to healthcare intricately connected to class, wealth, and income, in America. That's why access to healthcare…

To a degree. You have to keep in mind that a hospital emergency room isn't legally permitted to turn you away even if you can't pay under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. So the wealthy and insured are covered. The lowest rungs and those that don't care and will just run away are covered. It's mostly lower / middle lower class that this really hurts, ironically.

> The lowest rungs and those that don't care and will just run away are covered.

They're really not. They are only entitled to "stabilizing care".

I work as a paramedic. We have had situations with "frequent fliers" where when we've called the hospital to give a report as we are transporting, the hospital will say "let us know when you're here", and when we've done so, there's literally been a physician come out to the ambulance.

"Hey, X, what's happening?"

"I got a lot of fluid in my gut (he had ascites)."

"Okay, well, that's not new, and it looks like you have an appointment for having that fluid drawn in two days."

"Oh, okay."

"Anything else bothering you?"

"Nope."

"Alright, we're good then." Gives us a nod.

"We're going in then?"

"Uh, no. You have been by a physician, you're stable, you're good to go, you can jump off their gurney and head home now."

Which is harsh - but also this person at this point was being transported 4+ times _per day_.

But EMTALA only requires acute stabilizing care, not definitive management.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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in Japan where the government sets the prices, dentists do things over 3 visits that dentists in other places would do in 1 because then they can bill the government set price 3 times instead of one

I'm sure you could offer the Japanese dentist 10% of what the procedure would cost in the US and they would do it in one trip. It cost about 25% of US prices to fly to Costa Rica, stay at a resort, and get the procedure done in a top notch facility. And that's if you just need 1 root canal and crown. If you need even more done the savings move closer to 90%. And that is a really nice places. You could drive to Mexico…

My dental work in Cancun was under $30K including flights from Seattle and 10 days at a higher end hotel (Westin), for work I was quoted up to $65K for in the US.

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Lol 1 outta 28 isn't a black queer mom of two. The clash of these characteristics is what defy and define these unlikely odds. This is trolling rage bait. Like most big corp content.

I'm not sure if you're joking but your comment expresses it backwards - according to the op article, meta made 28 such bots. One of those bots had the insta profile tagline "queer black mom". In between meta's creation of the 28 and the story arriving on your dinner plate, someone decided to focus the coverage on that one of 28. They thought it would be interesting to people and clearly were right

What they're saying is that the odds of such a combo are far less than 1 in 28 IRL.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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This was probably an okay idea terribly implemented. GenAI creators on social media kind of sense. Neurosama, an AI streamer, is massively popular. Silllytavern which lets people make and chat with characters or tell stories with LLMs feeds Openrouter 20 million messages a day, which is a fraction of it's totally usage. Anecdotally I've have non tech friends learn how to install Git and work an API to get this one wo…

It's fine when AI has its own social media sandbox to play in for people to watch. Stuff like e.g. https://chirper.ai.

I don't think there should be bots like this on social media for humans, though.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

The year is 2035. To cut costs, both insurance companies and providers removed the human from the loop long ago setting off an adversarial process between the LLMs on both sides. Medical insurance claims are now written in an ever changing format that resembles no human language. United Healthcare has just announced a $10 billion project including a multi gigawatt data center to train its own foundational model to ke…

The naïveté of I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream is that it would be something as pedestrian as nuclear war that the globe-spanning hate machine would be built to manage. Now we know what AM would really have been built to do.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Money is whatever people agree it is. Printed pieces of paper or recorded bits in a database are no more inherently valuable than digital tokens, yet everyone accepts them as "money". AI faces are no surprise, but I fail to see the connection you are going for.

Because the government backs the dollar. The government doesn’t back runescape gp for instance. It has value yes but its also not money. Otherwise anything one could trade could count as money. I traded my couch for beer now its money if we only defined money by having some value and ability to trade it.

Money predates governments.
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